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Poll: Should the Jazz Match Hayward's $15.75 a year/4 year Contract?

Should They Match?

  • Total voters
    181
  • Poll closed .
fishonjazz said:
I will simplify it even further for you.

You should give me 100 dollars.

What are the issues?

Will you giving me 100 dollars prevent you from paying your phone bill? No it wont so you should just give it to me
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What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Re-signing Hayward will keep the team from taking a step back. Giving you $100 doesn't make sense, although I should give $100 to your mom. She is worth it.
 
JAZZGASM said:
I can just see it. Not signing Hayward will cause the Jazz to sign another group of old or subpar players. They will end up starting over our young talent. It will be frustrating.

Ugh.
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What would you call Danny Green, Tiago Splitter, Boris Diaw, Patty Mills, 3-4 years ago?



Yup. Subpar.
 
JAZZGASM said:
Additionally, the Jazz have about $37M in contracts once we sign Hood and Exum. We have to spend 90% of the $63M cap (about $57M).

If you don't pay it to Hayward, who do you pay it to? I don't want them to sign a few veterans that will take more playing time from our young core, and knowing the Jazz, that is what they do. I don't want more Richard Jefferson types that won't help us develop our young guys.

Lets keep our young core intact and grow into something special.
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pls stop. TIA
 
Hotttnickkk said:
What would you call Danny Green, Tiago Splitter, Boris Diaw, Patty Mills, 3-4 years ago?



Yup. Subpar.
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I call them a bunch of good players that don't play for the Jazz.

Richard Jefferson, Marvin Williams. John Lucas, Milt Palacios, Randy Foye, Tinsley, Watson, Raja Bell. Based on history, this is the type of player we will land. Look, if we can get any GOOD RFAs/FAs that can plug a gap left by Hayward for less, than do it.
 
The fact is the Jazz are going to do what they are going to do. If they don't re-sign him, I think down the road we will all regret it.
 
JAZZGASM said:
What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Re-signing Hayward will keep the team from taking a step back. Giving you $100 doesn't make sense, although I should give $100 to your mom. She is worth it.
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Your point is that the jazz have money so they should just spend it regardless of if the player is worth it.

So if you have some extra money then you should just give it to me..... or give it to my mom. Either way, you should just give your money away cause that is what smart people and franchises do
 
jazzrule said:
Struggled as Utah's go to scorer in the half court.

18.2 pts. per 40 pace adjusted, 15th among small forwards that played 30+ minutes.

45.3 2 pt. percentage, 24th among 29 small forwards that played 30+ minutes.

Average 1st step.

Struggles to turn the corner.

Limited shake.

Average finisher around the rim - 48.1%

Solid athlete but lacks explosiveness around the rim.

Doesn't handle contact all that well.

In two of six years he shot poorly from the 3 pt. line. (2009 -29% and 2014 - 30%)

Really struggled in catch and shot situations.

Lacks the athleticism, strength and length to guard small forwards.

Foot speed is average.

Unable to bother jump shooters due to his short wing span. Below average wingspan - 6ft. 7 3/4in. Doesn't bother jump shooters is a major defensive liability.

Has issues against quick wings. (Not great lateral speed)

Gets taken advantage of by strong wings. (Unable to wall off and contain in the paint)

OK with all the above who wants Hayward on a max contract?
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Lol someone watched the DX breakdown
 
fishonjazz said:
Your point is that the jazz have money so they should just spend it regardless of if the player is worth it.

So if you have some extra money then you should just give it to me..... or give it to my mom. Either way, you should just give your money away cause that is what smart people and franchises do
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No. It is not giving money away. The Jazz HAVE TO SPEND IT. If I want to buy a rare painting that I have had on display in my museum. The owner has a relationship with my museum, so he is willing to match any offers to allow me to keep it. I can either match what the market dictates, or I can look for other paintings to fill the space. If another painting I like as much or more can be acquired for cheaper, I buy it. If not, and I don't want an empty display in my museum, I pay the value the market dictates.

In this case, if I don't buy the painting, I will have to buy another $20M in paintings I may or may not want, or pay $20M extra to the paintings I already own.

The Jazz HAVE to spend at least $57M in salaries. If they don't re-sign Hayward or get other players, they have to pay it to the current roster. So the question becomes, if you HAVE to spend $20M do you do it on Hayward, others who may come here, or spread it out to your current roster.

As I have said all along, if they can bring in good replacement talent with the extra required spending, do it. It isn't a question if Hayward is getting overpaid. He is. To me, since the Jazz have to spend the $, I'd rather it be on Hayward as I think he helps the team, and I don't want multiple veteran scrubs taking away playing time from our young core.

If they can get Parsons, great. I don't see it happening.
 
JAZZGASM said:
No. It is not giving money away. If I want to buy a rare painting that I have had on display in my museum. The owner has a relationship with my museum, so he is willing to match any offers to allow me to keep it. I can either match what the market dictates, or I can look for other paintings to fill the space. If another painting I like as much or more can be acquired for cheaper, I buy it. If not, and I don't want an empty display in my museum, I pay the value the market dictates.
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Come on, just give 100 dollars already
 
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