Potential Trade Targets

[infection]

Only really interested in Murray. Hypothetically Siakam, but that would be predicated on us not really giving up much, which wouldn't be the case. The Murray situation was one of the unexplored gripes I had about the Collins deal because getting Murray would have actually made a lot of sense and reaching for Collins, who didn't make sense, eliminated that as being any kind of potential option.

If we're in the hunt of "the next Lauri" (which isn't the most realistic strategy globally), it's going to be Murray.

 

[infection]

Also, I think if we traded for Murray, it may be @NUMBERICA back.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Brogdon is outplaying him this year on a team with less overall talent and a mediocre coach.

He’s 31 and is an expiring next year. Not really what I would be looking for. I also would not enjoy watching him ball in ankle socks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, what kind of package would you be willing to trade for any of these guys?

Clarkson + a first + a swap for Dejounte?

Clarkson and a first would be my ceiling for Dejounte and there is no way the Hawks are doing that.

 

[Fosto]

I'd be interested in Murray if he's available for a reasonable price. Otherwise just wait for better options.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Out of those guys I like Dejounte. I think his fit with both Sexton (now) and George (in the future) seems good, as he brings defense and additional playmaking with decent shooting and scoring threat. He has AS upside but at the very least is a solid 2-way player who could do much of what Kris Dunn does defensively with an exponentially better offensive bag.

Other candidates you listed I'm not that interested on for various reasons. Siakam adds to our problem of mid level shooting paint penetrating dribblers and he is one of those guys who automatically puts the ball on the ground once he gets it. Would also think he is the unquestioned #1 guy here and likely struggle to play with Kessler. Demar is a non-spacer who has the most useless elite skill in modern NBA in midrange shotmaking, and Zach is just a loser (exaggarating these two to keep this short).

I would also want to look at Tyus and Tre Jones. They could both be had for various reasons, and while they would have trouble pairing with Sexton due to being seriously undersized as a pair, they could work well with JC and George (if we dont trade out JC).

You're going to have to explain to me how Zach LaVine is a loser but Dejounte Murray isnt.

Both players have only made the playoffs once as main pieces on a team. Dejounte got traded to a team and that team got worse (not saying it's his fault either way, but it happened).

 

[Elizah Huge]

You're going to have to explain to me how Zach LaVine is a loser but Dejounte Murray isnt.

Both players have only made the playoffs once as main pieces on a team. Dejounte got traded to a team and that team got worse (not saying it's his fault either way, but it happened).

Dejounte plays best as a PG. In SA the season before he got traded he was averaging 9.2 APG. He works best with the ball in his hands.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I'd be interested in Murray if he's available for a reasonable price. Otherwise just wait for better options.

I think this is a fair statement.

 

[idiot]

Does anyone have a reason for why Murray went from being a fabulous rebounder for a guard on the Spurs to a mediocre one on the Hawks (sort of in tandom with an overall decline in +/- effectiveness)?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You're going to have to explain to me how Zach LaVine is a loser but Dejounte Murray isnt.

Both players have only made the playoffs once as main pieces on a team. Dejounte got traded to a team and that team got worse (not saying it's his fault either way, but it happened).

They both might have some career loser energy but LaVine's teams are generally better (sometimes by a lot) when he is off the court. Minny was ugly but just in Chicago is on/off diff over 5 seasons is -2. Murray is a positive +.3 for his career. He's been negative in Atlanta.

Make of that what you will. Both guys are guys you look at and you know they are good but are they like average starter impact good or something more?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Only really interested in Murray. Hypothetically Siakam, but that would be predicated on us not really giving up much, which wouldn't be the case. The Murray situation was one of the unexplored gripes I had about the Collins deal because getting Murray would have actually made a lot of sense and reaching for Collins, who didn't make sense, eliminated that as being any kind of potential option.

If we're in the hunt of "the next Lauri" (which isn't the most realistic strategy globally), it's going to be Murray.

The problem with this is Dejounte signed an extension and wasn’t eligible to be traded for 6 months. At that point I’m sure Atlanta would have found a different suitor for Collins anyways if we passed.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Murray interests me the most. Jones, Brogdon, Morris and some of the basic point guard types are a bit less interesting now that Dunn and Sexton are playing better and George is functional.

I think my biggest trade interests are players on our team... going to other teams and we get nothing or picks back. Would just like to consolidate or clear some playing time for the young guys.