Pre-draft workouts

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Real talk on Allen: no tripping issues in the past, not white, even being old/senior, the dude is mocking in the early teens.

Ehh, who was the last 23 year old picked in the teens? It never happens anymore.

 

[Bodhi]

Ehh, who was the last 23 year old picked in the teens? It never happens anymore.

That would still be the biggest knock but no one wants to give him the athleticism props he deserves and the kid is a team player.

Not discounting the mental issues but I’d want him on my team if the situation was right.

 

[Park Bites]

Allen would be all right but not a lot of upside but drafting I'm the 20s you hope you get a rotational player

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[Piso]

NCAA 2017-18 - OPA (Offensive Points Added) + DPS (Defensive Points Saved) = TPA (Total point Added) - source : NBA math

1 Jevon Carter - 22y - 1281min - 183,14 OPA - 101,74 DPS - 284,88 TPA
7 Grayson Allen - 22y - 1316min - 165,15 OPA - 53,5 DPS - 218,65 TPA
14 Jalen Brunson - 21y - 1209min - 190,96 OPA - 14,85 DPS - 205,81 TPA
26 Jock Landale - 22y - 1200min - 131,65 OPA - 49,61 DPS - 181,26 TPA
27 Khyri Thomas - 22y - 1046min - 123,91 OPA - 57,19 DPS - 181,10 TPA
28 Keita Bates-Diop - 22y - 1120min - 97,10 OPA - 81,87 DPS - 178,87 TPA
29 Raymond Spalding - 21y - 996min - 62,48 OPA - 112,81 DPS - 175,29 TPA
30 Devon Hall - 22y - 1091min - 100,82 OPA - 74,38 DPS - 175,20 TPA
32 Donte DiVicenzo - 21y - 1106min - 116,46 OPA - 58,23 DPS - 174,69 TPA
35 Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk - 21y - 1317min - 129,62 OPA - 43,98 DPS - 173,60 TPA
36 Yante Maten - 22y - 1131min - 107,09 OPA - 66,47 DPS - 173,56 TPA
37 Theo Pinson - 22y - 1100min - 80,84 OPA - 92,67 DPS - 173,51 TPA
43 Trevon Bluiett - 23y - 1200min - 152,04 OPA - 17,38 DPS - 169,42 TPA
48 Omari Spellman - 20y - 1067min - 76,78 OPA - 89,88 DPS - 166,66 TPA
55 Malik Newman - 21y - 1195min - 115,51 OPA - 44,1 DPS - 159,61 TPA
62 Tyler Rawson - 22y - 1021min - 72,26 OPA - 86,02 DPS - 158,28 TPA
80 Caleb Martin - 22y - 1199min - 133,32 OPA - 14,81 DPS - 148,13 TPA
85 Elijah Bryant - 23y - 1215min - 105,19 OPA - 41,25 DPS - 146,44 TPA
93 Shamorie Ponds - 19y - 1110min - 112,46 OPA - 29,60 DPS - 142,06 TPA
96 Aaron Holiday - 21y - 1244min - 142,31 OPA - -2,22 DPS - 140,09 TPA
116 Moritz Wagner - 21y - 1009min - 71,26 OPA - 59,66 DPS - 130,92 TPA
117 Jaylen Barford - 22y - 1094min - 132,6 OPA - -1,95 DPS - 130,65 TPA
123 Angel Delgado - 23y - 1049min - 48,55 OPA - 80,29 DPS - 128,84 TPA
124 Wenyen Gabriel - 21y - 854min - 52,16 OPA - 76,00 DPS - 128,16 TPA
144 PJ Washington - 19y - 1012min - 47,68 OPA - 74,17 DPS - 121,85 TPA
182 Chimezie Metu - 21y - 1053min - 30,74 OPA - 79,58 DPS - 110,32 TPA
191 Elijah Stewart - 22y - 1066min - 89,71 OPA - 18,31 DPS - 108,02 TPA
206 Jalen McDaniels - 20y - 815min - 48,77 OPA - 55,94 DPS - 104,71 TPA
218 Shake Milton - 21y - 800min - 82,43 OPA - 19,32 DPS - 101,75 TPA
252 Matt Mobley - 23y - 1277min - 95,13 OPA - 0,00 DPS - 95,13 TPA
267 Dwight Coleby - 24y - 1018min - 30,20 OPA - 62,17 DPS - 92,37 TPA
304 Malik Pope - 21y - 842min - 19,26 OPA - 65,20 DPS - 84,46 TPA
313 Troy Brown - 18y - 1093min - 24,72 OPA - 57,05 DPS - 81,77 TPA
324 Thomas Wilder - 23y - 1050min - 81,98 OPA - -1,82 DPS - 80,16 TPA
652 Mustapha Heron - 20y - 916min - 40,40 OPA - 3,37 DPS - 43,77 TPA
706 Ryan Richardson - 22y - 1010min - 54,79 OPA - -15,91 DPS - 38,88 TPA
824 Kenneth Ogbe - 23y - 999min - 50,77 OPA - -19,26 DPS - 31,51 TPA
954 Sedrick Barefield - 21y - 862min - 18,88 OPA - 4,36 DPS - 23,24 TPA
1336 Kameron Chatman - 22y - 945min - 40,97 OPA - -33,85DPS - 7,12 TPA

 

[LoPo]

I'd be fine with Allen, but I'm with Cy - I don't think I'd want to take him at #21. He seems like a value in the later 20's and early 30's.

 

[stitches]

Ehh, who was the last 23 year old picked in the teens? It never happens anymore.

Thon Maker?

On a serious note - Justin Jackson was 22+, so were Buddy Hield, Kris Dunn, Denzel Valentine, Jerian Grant...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Thon Maker?

On a serious note - Justin Jackson was 22+, so were Buddy Hield, Kris Dunn, Denzel Valentine, Jerian Grant...

Yeah, this is not helping Grayson.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I can see how someone would compare Grayson and Donte but the mental side of things is a huge difference Donte seems super composed and Allen seems like he melts down when faced with adversity... has he even had his bhole licked... doubt it.

Donte>>>>Grayson

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I can see how someone would compare Grayson and Donte but the mental side of things is a huge difference Donte seems super composed and Allen seems like he melts down when faced with adversity... has he even had his bhole licked... doubt it.

Donte>>>>Grayson

But can Donte do this?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But can Donte do this?

IDK but he did this

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Okobo is coming to Utah on Thursday

 

[Ellipse]

According to Tony Jones the Jazz would consider taking him at 21.

"Consider" means nothing, as in, "Sure, we will consider drafting him at 21, along with twelve other prospects."

The Jazz never tip their hand as to who they are drafting.