Privileged by Kyle Korver

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Slavary happened in a country that stated in our own Declaration of Independence that "All Men are Created Equal". Silly but why reparations now? I'm saying this as a liberal. I just don't get that idea. I believe we can pump money into these suffering communities to help relieve years of abuse.

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It’s also happened in a country of the 3/5s compromise. A notion that set blacks as less than a man.

 

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He's a rich famous person.

Who, basically, had to pay $10k and do, what was it, 600 hours of community service? I mean, that's not 10 years in prison, but for someone who had no criminal record who basically just filed a false police report, it's not unreasonable.

Ok...

This doesn’t address the point of his post.

 

[gandalfe]

Ok...

This doesn’t address the point of his post.

Just that, yes, he has privilege, but people try to say that he's been treated with kid gloves because he's black. Nope, it's because of these other things.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Am I assuming as much as a person whose not American telling Americans how to conduct race relations in America?

Of course, maybe you are American. You certainly whine like a white, male American.

Oof.

 

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Just that, yes, he has privilege, but people try to say that he's been treated with kid gloves because he's black. Nope, it's because of these other things.

Ok. Cool

To me the point of his post is his conclusion. “The demand for racism should upset us all”.

 

[Hotdog]

Sorry. I cant do the all or nothing white privilege thing.

Surely not every white person experiences white privilege, right? I tried to ask One Brow about this before but could never get to the bottom of it. He just danced around the issue.

There is nuance, or different levels to this isnt there?

In what way does this white man have a better life than this black man?

 

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Sorry. I cant do the all or nothing white privilege thing.

Surely not every white person experiences white privilege, right? I tried to ask One Brow about this before but could never get to the bottom of it. He just danced around the issue.

There is nuance, or different levels to this isnt there?

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Don’t point to extreme situations as the norm. Just like not all abortions are because of life endangerment.

It’s a factually and logically weak argument.

 

[gandalfe]

Ok. Cool

To me the point of his post is his conclusion. “The demand for racism should upset us all”.

Well, but that doesn't exist. At least, not in the sense that he seemed to mean it. There are obviously those who try to instill racism so that they're not lonely. But 99.9% of black people who say they were attacked because they were black probably were.

 

[Hotdog]

Don’t point to extreme situations as the norm. Just like not all abortions are because of life endangerment.

It’s a factually and logically weak argument.

Dont dodge the question. The extreme example was to demonstrate that things arent equal. I could post a white guy with no arms but has legs up against a Royce O'neal and that example is extreme still, but not as much. So the spread is smaller. Where does it meet or where does the white privilege kick in?

What the hell does white privilege even mean if the guy with no arms and no legs doesnt even have it, and he is white?

Who has white privilege? All white people? Some white people? A few white people?

I say its a few white people. And i say there is black privilege too. See Jussie Smollett. Thats proof. You can choose to ignore if you want.

 

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Well, but that doesn't exist. At least, not in the sense that he seemed to mean it. There are obviously those who try to instill racism so that they're not lonely. But 99.9% of black people who say they were attacked because they were black probably were.

And here we differ. I’m a white male. I’m as white as the driven snow. And I can think back to several occasions I have seen an expression of a demand for racism.

Like when my female Navajo coworker was accused of racism against Native Americans by a Navajo woman. All because my coworker refused to break the law. The demand for racism does exist because it’s a convenient scapegoat and justification for failure, being ill prepared, laziness and what not. And I’ve seen it used by whites as often as any other group.

I’ll agree that the majority of people that say they were the victim of racism were. But the % is an unknown. And it’s ebough to warrant looking at every case by the details

 

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Dont dodge the question. The extreme example was to demonstrate that things arent equal. I could post a white guy with no arms but has legs up against a Royce O'neal and that example is extreme still, but not as much. So the spread is smaller. Where does it meet or where does the white privilege kick in?

What the hell does white privilege even mean if the guy with no arms and no legs doesnt even have it, and he is white?

Who has white privilege? All white people? Some white people? A few white people?

I say its a few white people. And i say there is black privilege too. See Jussie Smollett. Thats proof. You can choose to ignore if you want.

Post a question that’s worth answering and not built on a ******** extreme premise

 

[Hotdog]

Post a question that’s worth answering and not built on a ******** extreme premise

You cant beat my logic. That's why you wont answer.

I dont even have to use an extreme example. Just an ordinary example.

White guy, no dad. Grew up very poor. In and out of jail. Got addicted to heroin. Overdoses. Has health problems. Dies at 25.

Black guy. Grew up in above average household income status. College paid for. Both parents. Becomes an engineer and has 4 kids. Has a good life. Lives to 89

Does the white guy still have some unfair advantage over the black guy.

Or are you going to tell me that scenario could never exist?

Or is it just easier to not think about how different things are from one person to the next?