Privileged by Kyle Korver

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by JazzGal, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    I'm just saying there's a lot more to white culture than "white power". There is a lot of dark ****, but there is also a lot that people can be proud of.
     
  2. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    1. I havent given that any thought. It will suffice to agree wanting to preserve does not always and everywhere equal racism.

    2. That's beside the point in that example but people who don't want to breathe the byproducts of incomplete and inefficient combustion.

    3. You are saying that and I don't see it. Do you have any evidence of it or is it all anecdotal? I can be convinced pretty easily but for now my anecdotal experience says otherwise.
     
  3. Mission Accomplished

    Mission Accomplished Well-Known Member

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    That is silly.

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  4. One Brow

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    What are the parts of white culture that you feel are under attack?
     
  5. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely agree there are fears involved that don't come from racism.

    Well, I thought the point was defending themselves from the diminution of culture, as opposed to being inconsiderate to neighbors. I agree it's a side issue.

    The "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville had openly white nationalist participants. The Proud Boys start in/near 2014. Again, I'm not saying these represent increases in the overall rate of white nationalist beliefs, just an increase in their willingness to be open about it.

    However, my memory is not that great. If you remember openly racist groups participating in the tea parties, or rallying under Bush 43, perhaps I'm wrong.

    Edited: Added an intended "not"
     
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  6. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    You may be right but I dont see it as more presence of this tiny fringe than before. We rounded up something like 2,000 of them for conspiracy and other charges after Timothy McVeigh. Maybe that caused a 10-15 year reduction in open marches.


    "whitenationalism has become more acceptable as a public position"

    This is what I I disagreed with so thank you for clarifying what you meant.
     
  7. silesian

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    I'll use your source, marketwatch: "The best first two years in office (regardless of term) for a president since Obama from 2013 - 2015"

    Why did you cherry pick the first year? Maybe this, from the same source, Trump's second year stocks down 5.2%:

    Trump Second year.JPG trump v obama.JPG trump v obama.JPG
     
  8. silesian

    silesian Well-Known Member

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    I'm neither "pro Trump" nor "pro Obama" nor "pro-presidents determine the stock market"

    Facts are facts.
     
  9. checkbookdoc

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  10. Stars Fan

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    Thank you for this post... this thread was going off the rails.

    Good article btw.

    #D.O.N. is the answer to all our challenges!

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  11. jumpin bean

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    white guilters are wimps.all races can be racist but the narrative has been only whites can be racist. look playing the victim card is not being a winner.every race has racists but it is being shoved down the white mans throat that they are privledged. grow a pair boys.im proud to be white as should every race. lets stop talking race,you are not african american you are american and most people treat people the way they want treated.i grew up poor as ****,went ton an all mexican school got called honkey and had to fight every day just for bring a white boy. im not a victim because i know who i am and nobody can make me feel bad for being white. Korver needs to open his eyes.
     
  12. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    lol. Check out this racist.
     
  13. Alfalfa

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    If only non-whites had the awesomeness of whites, then they'd be fine. Instead, they're just so lazy and ****. Not a racist btw.
     
  14. Gameface

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    Are you accusing idestroyedthetoilet of being a Trump hater?

    That has NOT been his position at all.
     
  15. Gameface

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    We speak English in America. Please learn our language and then get back to us.
     
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  16. silesian

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    i'm not judging anyone, but I must say that I've always found melatonin to be a strange source of pride. I get "proud to be a hard worker" "proud to be a great Dad" or "proud of my daughter" But if you are proud of the melatonin concentration in your skin, I'm cool with that since you did not say that your melatonin is better than someone else's melatonin.

    If it is okay for you to be proud of being white, why would you choose to condemn me for being proud to be a German American? Seems like heritage bigotry. And a strange inconsistency in your message.


    I'm glad to know that the guy who cut me off in traffic wants me to cut him off. I do appreciate the Pollyanna sentiment, but will question the veracity

    Society really looks down on poor people and believe that they are poor because they are lazy, which is total BS. I'm glad it didn't bother you. Socioeconomic bigotry is a big problem

    You think Korver said you should feel bad for being white? He said the exact opposite. You know, the whole "responsibility, not guilt" thing. It was very clear.
     
  17. Alfalfa

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    The biggest accomplishment of the modern American media and institutions is to convince its whites that poor blacks are their enemy, while the rich took a larger and larger slice of the pie.

    Genius.

    But no, NPC D7843895 is immune to propaganda I hear.
     
  18. LoPo

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    I disagree with this completely. Never in my entire life have I felt that I was convinced by the media to fear poor blacks.
     
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  19. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    Isn't this cherry picking a stat? The stock market soared once Trump was elected and through the first year. So it dipped a little bit right because it got so high. Aren't I correct on that?

    Since this is a Jazz forum, let me use this Jazz related hypothetical. If the Jazz defense was allowing 105 points per game before Rudy and then gave up 90ppg with Rudy, that's an amazing improvement correct? Then if we allowed 91ppg under year 2 of Rudy, sure it's a % drop from the year before, but the ppg is still massively ahead of where we were before Rudy got here right?

    In my scenario, Rudy is Trump and the 105ppg is what we allowed under Obama.
     
  20. Alfalfa

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    Right. There is no perception that black neighborhoods are dangerous. There is no preference for white neighbors. None ever crossed the street upon seeing two black people walking down it. There isn't hundreds of years of history of painting black men as animal-like in their strength and horniness. People don't associate crime with blacks. There is no million other things I can list. I must have dreamed it all up.

    That's how socialization works. You don't feel it happening. What you hear throughout your life slowly builds up your worldview.
     

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