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[Hotdog]

Nah, the problem is your ignorance of your people's history. That's all.

And still waiting for your proof of main stream white supremacy.

I know I will never get it though.

I just want it to be main stream that you make **** up. So Ill be covering this topic 24/7

 

[One Brow]

IMHO, basic laws in math and physics are still same. Maybe it is different in US, but here the elementary school books about math and physics that were published during the Soviet time (and in theory should be in poorer quality compared to those books that are now published in US or Estonia) have IMHO aged well. Assuming the student wants to learn; that was visible during the Brezhnev time and also now. Or are you saying that currently life in black dominated suburbs are even worse, than life was in Estonia during the Soviet regime, specially between 1940-1953 when although the living conditions were what they were the youngsters still managed to graduate elementary, secondary(high) school and even university?

I don't feel qualified to comment on Soviet-era teaching methods, nor current Estonian teaching methods, let alone compare them to the variety of teaching methods used in the US. I have no idea how they compare the teaching methods of modern-day US schools in poor or middle-class communities.

Instead, let me give you an example. At my kids schools, every year they were given work books. These are books designed to be cut up, torn apart, written on, and other-wise physically manipulated, which allow children to engage with the material physically as well as mentally. This improves student understanding and outcomes. However, work books are expensive. Not all school systems can afford to give each child two or three such books every year as a supplement to the text. Further, because you always have to buy the latest work book, you have to have the latest text to accompany it. Not all school systems can afford to replace their texts at this rate. Since the work books are used two-three times per week, they have a long-term, incremental, building effect on child learning.

I can pull out another five or six additional teaching methods that are much more accessible to middle-class children, if you like.

 

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My thought on all of this:



I'm so sick of this crap. It's just a political tool and so many of you are so eager to show how enlightened you are and how you care and are such a good person.
Well, I've watched this kind of crap for 50 years and I don't buy any of it.

 

[One Brow]

I'm so sick of this crap. It's just a political tool and so many of you are so eager to show how enlightened you are and how you care and are such a good person.
Well, I've watched this kind of crap for 50 years and I don't buy any of it.

Well, I'm not in politics, and I don't know anyone on this board outside of this board, so I have no reason to care whether they think I'm enlightened.

Still, it's nice for you that you can opt out. Enjoy that feeling.

 

[Alfalfa]

And still waiting for your proof of main stream white supremacy.

I know I will never get it though.

I just want it to be main stream that you make **** up. So Ill be covering this topic 24/7

Proof? lol. I might get back to this and explain it for the benefit of those with actual intellectual curiosity. And you can read it and dismiss it then.

 

[LoPo]

facts matter

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Yep. All facts matter. https://www.weeklystandard.com/jeffrey-h-anderson/obamas-historically-bad-economy

I own that I misspoke about the 2% thing. Did things start improving at the very end of 8 years? Sure they did. About freaking time.

My whole point, especially since this thread is about race, was that Obama did less than I expected to improve the lives of the impoverished especially minorities. Can anybody point to any legislation he pushed or signed off on which was designated to improve the lives of those in poverty hell? Like I said before, Trump is an *** but his tax cuts have seemed to have a positive impact for minorities. Some will say that more women, African Americans, etc. need to be in power to work on behalf of the groups they represent. That logic isn't proven. As long as our policies are fair and designed to improve all lives, it shouldn't matter the race, gender, orientation, whatever of the person is who implements the policies. That's why I'm sick and tired of labels. We spend way too much time as a society labeling people.

 

[One Brow]

My whole point, especially since this thread is about race, was that Obama did less than I expected to improve the lives of the impoverished especially minorities.

I agree there.

Can anybody point to any legislation he pushed or signed off on which was designated to improve the lives of those in poverty hell?

Well, going by here, 5, 12, 13, 17, 19, and 23 qualify.

 

[lauriandres]

Instead, let me give you an example. At my kids schools, every year they were given work books. These are books designed to be cut up, torn apart, written on, and other-wise physically manipulated, which allow children to engage with the material physically as well as mentally. This improves student understanding and outcomes. However, work books are expensive. Not all school systems can afford to give each child two or three such books every year as a supplement to the text. Further, because you always have to buy the latest work book, you have to have the latest text to accompany it. Not all school systems can afford to replace their texts at this rate. Since the work books are used two-three times per week, they have a long-term, incremental, building effect on child learning.

I can pull out another five or six additional teaching methods that are much more accessible to middle-class children, if you like.

During the Soviet time the main books belonged to school and were recycled. Some were used maybe even for 10 seasons. Everybody received them at the beginning of the season (had to cover them with protective paper) and gave back to school in spring.
So called work books were also distributed by school and were affordable. You had to buy empty workbooks (to sketch, write, do calculus) from the shop.
Now you have to buy workbooks (both those with creative elements and blank ones) and main theory books, but the main theory is also available on the web.
For example:
https://opik.fyysika.ee/?locale=en_GB
https://opik.fyysika.ee/index.php/book/view/36#/section/9274

Should be easy to publish the same stuff in US in English for a multimillionaire basketball player as a charity project unless they have family to feed . Of course, in theory that kind of material should be created by some government entity which is responsible for education.
In general, my point is that if kids were able to study more or less successfully in post-war Soviet Union, Germany, Japan and eastern bloc countries then i seriously doubt that life for blacks is currently worse.

 

[One Brow]

Should be easy to publish the same stuff in US in English for a multimillionaire basketball player as a charity project unless they have family to feed .

How many millions of workbooks should we expect this basketball player to buy each year, over how many years?

Of course, in theory that kind of material should be created by some government entity which is responsible for education.
In general, my point is that if kids were able to study more or less successfully in post-war Soviet Union, Germany, Japan and eastern bloc countries then i seriously doubt that life for blacks is currently worse.

Since you have no basis of comparison, feel free to doubt.

 

[LoPo]

I agree there.



Well, going by here, 5, 12, 13, 17, 19, and 23 qualify.

Maybe if he would have taken the money wasted on #22 and used it to improve inner city issues affecting minorities, maybe he would have done something to directly improve the lives of minorities.

No President fails at everything or succeeds at everything. I was just hoping that President Obama would do more to empower minorities, lessen the race issues in this country, etc. And I'm not trying to open the door for a Trump bashing session. I'm just talking about Obama and his impact.

 

[Hotdog]

facts matter

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So are we giving credit to past or present President for the current economy? You show a graph of the economy rising right when Obama was elected. Which if we go by the events that happened prior, then that would mean Bush should get the credit.

In reality, neither deserve credit. Bush tanked it. He did a stimulus, Obama got elected and he did a stimulus. Both were one right after each other. So Im not sure how you can give Obama credit after it was two straight stimulus packages that bailed out the economy.

In Trump's case he didnt need a stimulus. He just lowered taxes, and the economy now is doing better than it was under Obama or Bush. The effects of what Trump did was immediately felt. Obama's and Bush's solution was slow and barely did anything.

Shortly after Trump was elected and taxes were lowered the economy has been on fire like I have never seen before. There is more work out there than there is people willing to work. Businesses are fighting over employees. Wages making jumps every few months. All through Obama years the wages were stagnant. Those are facts.

 

[One Brow]

Maybe if he would have taken the money wasted on #22 and used it to improve inner city issues affecting minorities, maybe he would have done something to directly improve the lives of minorities.

That would be theft. Even though we froze it, it was Iran's money.