Proselytizing

[TroutBum]

Because he's an idiot?

 

[Archie Moses]

I am admittedly not a religious person and do tend cringe when I see such a public display of religion. That being said, I cringe equally as much when I see a public display of intolerance and badmouthing of those that are religious. Group B is no better than group A.



So why did you just do so?

Repped.

 

[VINYLONE]

I am admittedly not a religious person and do tend cringe when I see such a public display of religion. That being said, I cringe equally as much when I see a public display of intolerance and badmouthing of those that are religious. Group B is no better than group A.

So why did you just do so?

Intolerant? You've missed the point. Predictably. I'm glad that they have the right to say whatever it is that they want to say. That's why I live in this country. That said, it doesn't mean I can't find it completely annoying and counter productive..at least in todays times. I would never ever disrespect one of these kids if they approached me and would never make a disparaging remark at them. I'd just say Im not interested and if I was in the mood, engage them. I am wholeheartedly no better than they are as I am just another human being living on this planet. But the difference between them is that my lack of belief is wholly personal and not something I need collective agreement on.

I would get just as upset with some Atheist that came to my door to "recruit."

 

[moevillini]

too late for TULT, it's already there, but it seems like it may deserve mention here as well

here's a bit of proselytizing on behalf of your pets...

https://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html

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You've committed your life to Jesus. You know you're saved. But when the Rapture comes what's to become of your loving pets who are left behind? Eternal Earth-Bound Pets takes that burden off your mind.

We are a group of dedicated animal lovers, and atheists. Each Eternal Earth-Bound Pet representative is a confirmed atheist, and as such will still be here on Earth after you've received your reward. Our network of animal activists are committed to step in when you step up to Jesus.

We are currently active in 24 states. Our representatives have been screened to ensure that they are atheists, animal lovers, are moral / ethical with no criminal background, have the ability and desire to rescue your pet and the means to retrieve them and ensure their care for your pet's natural life....

https://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/FAQ_s.html

FAQ's

Q: Is this a Joke?
A: No. This is a serious offer to our Christian friends who believe in the Second Coming and honestly care about the future of their pets after the Rapture occurs.

Q: Do YOU believe in the Rapture.
A: As atheists we do not hold beliefs in the supernatural or a divine being. Thus, we do not believe in the Rapture. However, we respect the beliefs of others and are open to the possibility that our perspective could possibly be wrong.

Q: How do you ensure your representatives won't be Raptured.
A: Actually, we don't ensure it, they do. Each of our representatives has stated to us in writing that they are atheists, do not believe in God / Jesus, and that they have blasphemed in accordance with Mark 3:29, negating any chance of salvation.

Q: Can I meet or communicate with my rescue representative?
A: Sorry, No....

so am I correct to conclude that pets ordinarily wouldn't be included in a rapture/salvation event?

is there a Christian religion that allows a believer to include their pets as part of a package plan?

what a relief that I don't have any pets to worry about.

 

[PearlWatson]

I was really annoyed when I attended my brother's college graduation ceremony and some professor, who was receiving some honor, took the opportunity to rail against the Iraq war, Bush, and Cheney for 1/2 hour.

I've had JWs and Mormon missionaries on my porch one time. Everyone was respectful and the discussion was interesting.

 

[Gameface]

too late for TULT, it's already there, but it seems like it may deserve mention here as well

here's a bit of proselytizing on behalf of your pets...

https://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html




https://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/FAQ_s.html


so am I correct to conclude that pets ordinarily wouldn't be included in a rapture/salvation event?

is there a Christian religion that allows a believer to include their pets as part of a package plan?

what a relief that I don't have any pets to worry about.

Oh man, I gotta get in on this! This is fantastic!

oh and

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to moevillini again.

so I guess a few people are getting repped today, one way or another...

 

[franklin]

I remember once I asked a couple of Mormon kids that came to my place to name one virtue that they as a believer had and that me as a non-believer, could not have. Kind of stumped them.

What is your opinion of St. Augustine on true happiness? (I'll wait for sufficient googling time )

 

[franklin]

And Vinyl, please learn to paraphrase. You put up some really boring, really long ****.

 

[VINYLONE]

What is your opinion of St. Augustine on true happiness? (I'll wait for sufficient googling time )

Looking it up...

And Vinyl, please learn to paraphrase. You put up some really boring, really long ****.

Sorry bro. Not my fault your attention span is that of a 4 year old. There was a "listen to this" link too.

 

[VINYLONE]

So I found this:

https://www.friendsofaugustine.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=23

I really, really like what I read. I think if more people followed those teachings, the purity of the words and the unmitigated message, this world would be a better place. I mean what better way to continue the aspects of "mutual love" than allowing those of the same sex to get married right?

Anyway, thanks for turning me onto this...Ill add it to my cadre of influences in living a better life.

 

[franklin]

I'm sick and not thinking straight. I meant St. Thomas Aquinas, not Augustine. My apologies.

To butcher it, he thought, keeping with earlier philosophers in having happiness being the philosophical foundation, you couldn't find true happiness without a supreme being because if you were truly happy then you wouldn't want to lose this state. Thus God is essential for happiness (along with a bunch of purpose of life religious stuff).

This was the main retort that was used for centuries against atheism. I don't want to get into it much and am not looking to argue or insult. I just wanted to put it out there.

 

[VINYLONE]

I'm sick and not thinking straight. I meant St. Thomas Aquinas, not Augustine. My apologies.

To butcher it, he thought, keeping with earlier philosophers in having happiness being the philosophical foundation, you couldn't find true happiness without a supreme being because if you were truly happy then you wouldn't want to lose this state. Thus God is essential for happiness (along with a bunch of purpose of life religious stuff).

This was the main retort that was used for centuries against atheism. I don't want to get into it much and am not looking to argue or insult. I just wanted to put it out there.

Well maybe they're the same person or somehow related because the tenets of that link I posted touched on the same stuff.

 

[babe]

Well maybe they're the same person or somehow related because the tenets of that link I posted touched on the same stuff.

It might be worth digging into the second or maybe fifth page of the google results to find something that actually relates to St. Thomas Aquinas.

I've known catholics who love his writings so much they will define him as the defense of their faith: "Any religion that can produce an Aquinas has just got to be True."

Even Protestants go to his writings to find support for their faith. Its a genre of philosophy called Apologetics, meaning pure exercises of reason intended to comfort the faithful.

modern christian apologetics has some fair proponents too. I always find the offerings of RZM, Robbie Zacharias Ministries, worthwhile.

atheistic apologetics is a fairly active discipline too. Take One Brows' blog for example.

I can understand the view you take as well, in that you argue you've been "impressed" that the way things should be is just that everybody should leave everybody else alone.

competition and proselyting for converts in the realm of faith might just be a healthy way for humans to exercise their social skills, and might be a sign of a healthy community, as long as we generally uphold the individual freedoms of speech, religion, and an agreement that the government should not be in the business of standardizing human belief.

The atheist's/agnostic's perceived "corner" on discussions in public schools and in the public square has worked like a rock in the public shoe to provoke an outcry for "so just why can't we talk about our faith, too?"

The claim that government sanction of atheism is required by the concept on "no establishment of religion" is going to become a harder thing to defend as time goes on and more people recognize atheism and agnosticism as defined positions of human belief which also should not be state-sanctioned beliefs.

We'll all be happier if we can just laugh more about the things we have to offer "Apologetics" for. . . .

 

[LogGrad98]

It might be worth digging into the second or maybe fifth page of the google results to find something that actually relates to St. Thomas Aquinas.

I've known catholics who love his writings so much they will define him as the defense of their faith: "Any religion that can produce an Aquinas has just got to be True."

Even Protestants go to his writings to find support for their faith. Its a genre of philosophy called Apologetics, meaning pure exercises of reason intended to comfort the faithful.

modern christian apologetics has some fair proponents too. I always find the offerings of RZM, Robbie Zacharias Ministries, worthwhile.

atheistic apologetics is a fairly active discipline too. Take One Brows' blog for example.

I can understand the view you take as well, in that you argue you've been "impressed" that the way things should be is just that everybody should leave everybody else alone.

competition and proselyting for converts in the realm of faith might just be a healthy way for humans to exercise their social skills, and might be a sign of a healthy community, as long as we generally uphold the individual freedoms of speech, religion, and an agreement that the government should not be in the business of standardizing human belief.

The atheist's/agnostic's perceived "corner" on discussions in public schools and in the public square has worked like a rock in the public shoe to provoke an outcry for "so just why can't we talk about our faith, too?"

The claim that government sanction of atheism is required by the concept on "no establishment of religion" is going to become a harder thing to defend as time goes on and more people recognize atheism and agnosticism as defined positions of human belief which also should not be state-sanctioned beliefs.

We'll all be happier if we can just laugh more about the things we have to offer "Apologetics" for. . . .

Spot on.