Proselytizing

[Bronco70]

I remember once I asked a couple of Mormon kids that came to my place to name one virtue that they as a believer had and that me as a non-believer, could not have. Kind of stumped them.

You outwitted a couple of 19 year old kids? Wow. You're awesome.

I think Trout's point was, rather than find out what people really believe and do, most folks tend to rely on stereotypes. Media and popular culture do nothing to discourage this.

 

[babe]

You guys are crazy. I wish more missionaries would come to our house, LDS, Baptist, Scientologist, Jay Dubs, etc. I'll let them in every time. One of my favorite experiences ever was talking to two J-dubs about their religion. I think it's fascinating to learn what people believe Vs. what the media tells me to believe. Just ask anyone outside of Utah about Mormons, and you'll hear about their 6 wives, etc. just like you'll hear in Utah that Scientologists eat their young, believe in Martians from YerAnus, etc.

Try it next time they show up, you might be surprised how much they can teach you, and not necessarilly about religion.

this is to answer on behalf of trout being question about his openness to media indoctrination. . . . well, actually, I've been a lot like this all my life. . . . never met anyone who represented another idea or belief I wouldn't listen to for a while. . . .

This attitude is essential for the development of a secure set of personal values. . . . you have understood what others think and you know why they think so, so you can defend your own thinking in some satisfactory degree even while actually being able to just be respectful of others. . . . .

In my experience, that enables me to really have a hoot sometimes with the ignorant drivel the media dishes out sometimes. . . . .

 

[VINYLONE]

You outwitted a couple of 19 year old kids? Wow. You're awesome.

I think Trout's point was, rather than find out what people really believe and do, most folks tend to rely on stereotypes. Media and popular culture do nothing to discourage this.

Thank you. I offered them juice too. Are you an adult? Answer the question.

 

[babe]

Oof.

Dont get me wrong, I understand they are only trying to do good. I completely understand that. But in addition to coming from a place of concern, it's also coming from a place of ego. They have the the answers. Yeah, whatever.

Like Balloun, I've had my encounters with Momo's and Christians coming to my door. And when I tell them Im an Atheist they look so concerned. I remember once I asked a couple of Mormon kids that came to my place to name one virtue that they as a believer had and that me as a non-believer, could not have. Kind of stumped them.Also, GF, thanks for your response. It gave me a different perspective on things.

@ Trout: What does the media tell you to believe in?

You mean you weren't impressed that they lacked the arrogance to assert any bigotry whatsover against your beliefs? Some of those LDS missionaries are actually quite kind and patient and understanding of others, and a lot of them carry some sincere questions or insecurities about their own beliefs. and they have to learn to just get along with their companions 24/7 for two or three months at a time. . . .

The last time I encountered the LDS missionaries on my street I was pitching broken chunks of concrete into my pickup to haul it all away, and they stopped. . . . in their suits and ties and nametags. . . . and helped me for about twenty minutes.

 

[VINYLONE]

Impressed over the way things should be?

 

[Bronco70]

Are you an adult? Answer the question.

Legally, or emotionally?

 

[TroutBum]

This thread rules.

 

[Scat]

All I could think about is tell all of these kids to shut the **** up. Why do you think its proper to make public something so private?

I am admittedly not a religious person and do tend cringe when I see such a public display of religion. That being said, I cringe equally as much when I see a public display of intolerance and badmouthing of those that are religious. Group B is no better than group A.

I mean, Im a ****ing Atheist for myself. No one else. Just because I think I have the ****ing answer gives me no right to "mission" or "minister" to other people.

So why did you just do so?

 

[TroutBum]

Because he's an idiot?

 

[Archie Moses]

I am admittedly not a religious person and do tend cringe when I see such a public display of religion. That being said, I cringe equally as much when I see a public display of intolerance and badmouthing of those that are religious. Group B is no better than group A.



So why did you just do so?

Repped.

 

[VINYLONE]

I am admittedly not a religious person and do tend cringe when I see such a public display of religion. That being said, I cringe equally as much when I see a public display of intolerance and badmouthing of those that are religious. Group B is no better than group A.

So why did you just do so?

Intolerant? You've missed the point. Predictably. I'm glad that they have the right to say whatever it is that they want to say. That's why I live in this country. That said, it doesn't mean I can't find it completely annoying and counter productive..at least in todays times. I would never ever disrespect one of these kids if they approached me and would never make a disparaging remark at them. I'd just say Im not interested and if I was in the mood, engage them. I am wholeheartedly no better than they are as I am just another human being living on this planet. But the difference between them is that my lack of belief is wholly personal and not something I need collective agreement on.

I would get just as upset with some Atheist that came to my door to "recruit."

 

[moevillini]

too late for TULT, it's already there, but it seems like it may deserve mention here as well

here's a bit of proselytizing on behalf of your pets...

https://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html

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You've committed your life to Jesus. You know you're saved. But when the Rapture comes what's to become of your loving pets who are left behind? Eternal Earth-Bound Pets takes that burden off your mind.

We are a group of dedicated animal lovers, and atheists. Each Eternal Earth-Bound Pet representative is a confirmed atheist, and as such will still be here on Earth after you've received your reward. Our network of animal activists are committed to step in when you step up to Jesus.

We are currently active in 24 states. Our representatives have been screened to ensure that they are atheists, animal lovers, are moral / ethical with no criminal background, have the ability and desire to rescue your pet and the means to retrieve them and ensure their care for your pet's natural life....

https://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/FAQ_s.html

FAQ's

Q: Is this a Joke?
A: No. This is a serious offer to our Christian friends who believe in the Second Coming and honestly care about the future of their pets after the Rapture occurs.

Q: Do YOU believe in the Rapture.
A: As atheists we do not hold beliefs in the supernatural or a divine being. Thus, we do not believe in the Rapture. However, we respect the beliefs of others and are open to the possibility that our perspective could possibly be wrong.

Q: How do you ensure your representatives won't be Raptured.
A: Actually, we don't ensure it, they do. Each of our representatives has stated to us in writing that they are atheists, do not believe in God / Jesus, and that they have blasphemed in accordance with Mark 3:29, negating any chance of salvation.

Q: Can I meet or communicate with my rescue representative?
A: Sorry, No....

so am I correct to conclude that pets ordinarily wouldn't be included in a rapture/salvation event?

is there a Christian religion that allows a believer to include their pets as part of a package plan?

what a relief that I don't have any pets to worry about.