Oh that's great. Best thing I heard all day.Hahaahhahaah
Trump was paying Rudy $20,000 per day to lose over and over again. Lololololololol
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Oh that's great. Best thing I heard all day.Hahaahhahaah
Yes, one group had a way better reason to protest (a reason I stand by) but I'll be damned if I'd ever condone arson, looting, destruction and some of the **** show we saw. Some people have a hard time condemning it because they believe in the reason for the protest.
Another point is that much of the violence during the BLM protests included pro-right groups coming in and stirring up trouble. What the right doesn't understand is there would be no need for BLM protest if they just afforded black people the same rights under the Constitution. Many GOP supporters only believe that constitutional right are for them. Any rights blacks have earned in the US has been through getting the crap beat out of them, murder, rape, vandalism, threats, burning crosses etc. The reality is a majority of GOP white people only believe the rights of the Constitution are meant for them. Blacks and other minorities who are citizens should have the same rights so whining about some vandalism and looting seems ridiculous especially after they have defended the traitors who attack the Capital.I don't know what kind of fantasy world you live in, but peaceful change doesn't usually happen because those in power generally don't want to agree to change out of the goodness of their hearts. I mean, you wouldn't condone arson, looting, destruction. How the **** do you think your country was created? Boston Tea Party involved the destruction of almost 2 millions dollars(in today's money) worth of private property.
Oh, but you stand by the reason, right? You agree with need racial justice? You just want to see it happen without anything unpleasant. And if it doesn't happen, what then? At which point is it okay to engage in violence, and how in the world do you figure that point hasn't been reached in the US?
Non-violent resistance is nice optics, but it hides an uglier reality. Dire Straits playing for Mandela and US college kids carrying placards saying "Divest from South Africa" looks nice on TV, but it was the deteriorating security situation that made the regime realize they needed to end Apartheid. That meant violence and destruction, else South Africa might still be minority ruled.
If you really, really believe that a cause is morally right, then you should support things a lot worse than looting in order to see it succeed. And perhaps not make moral equivalencies of the "there were good people on both sides" variety.
You have heard of Martin Luther King and all he did to advance civil rights, yes?I don't know what kind of fantasy world you live in, but peaceful change doesn't usually happen because those in power generally don't want to agree to change out of the goodness of their hearts. I mean, you wouldn't condone arson, looting, destruction. How the **** do you think your country was created? Boston Tea Party involved the destruction of almost 2 millions dollars(in today's money) worth of private property.
Oh, but you stand by the reason, right? You agree with need racial justice? You just want to see it happen without anything unpleasant. And if it doesn't happen, what then? At which point is it okay to engage in violence, and how in the world do you figure that point hasn't been reached in the US?
Non-violent resistance is nice optics, but it hides an uglier reality. Dire Straits playing for Mandela and US college kids carrying placards saying "Divest from South Africa" looks nice on TV, but it was the deteriorating security situation that made the regime realize they needed to end Apartheid. That meant violence and destruction, else South Africa might still be minority ruled.
If you really, really believe that a cause is morally right, then you should support things a lot worse than looting in order to see it succeed. And perhaps not make moral equivalencies of the "there were good people on both sides" variety.
As powerful and important as his non-violent approach was, it was helped a lot by having Malcolm X in the movement as well. Allies were able to say "If you don't work with King, you'll have to deal with Malcolm."You have heard of Martin Luther King and all he did to advance civil rights, yes?
Just saying.
At that, Malcom X only supported violence for self-defense, IIRC.As powerful and important as his non-violent approach was, it was helped a lot by having Malcolm X in the movement as well. Allies were able to say "If you don't work with King, you'll have to deal with Malcolm."
My favorite detail of this story is it's being said there was like 30 off duty cops involved....
flashing their badges...
Writing non-violent at the first part of my post was supposed to be violent. I'm not sure why I wrote non-violent. I was trying to compare both actions on each different protests as the same.I'm reluctant to ask him if he knows this hijacked meaning. I'm afraid of what his answer would be, and I would prefer to continue liking him.
I agree with much of what you wrote above, except that you were only talking about the peaceful protesters in the Capitol riot and the non-peaceful ones in the racial riots. Not exactly a fair comparison. Both groups had people who believed in their cause, and both groups had some who took advantage of the situation to destroy. But only one of those groups of non-violent protestors had truth on their side.
I think the police escalated the protests in some places and sometimes, but certainly not always.I'm 95% in agreement. The main difference being that part of the reason the summer protests escalated (the initial protests were completely peaceful) was a response to police escalation, while the Capital protest was violent without police escalation.
I hope the FBI knows where to find me.FBI about to pick you up?
The Republican Party has some folks who might make better democrats. No one knows why they are Republicans, except perhaps they like to pretend to be what they aren't.Both sides are the same. Right?
Great post!Another point is that much of the violence during the BLM protests included pro-right groups coming in and stirring up trouble. What the right doesn't understand is there would be no need for BLM protest if they just afforded black people the same rights under the Constitution. Many GOP supporters only believe that constitutional right are for them. Any rights blacks have earned in the US has been through getting the crap beat out of them, murder, rape, vandalism, threats, burning crosses etc. The reality is a majority of GOP white people only believe the rights of the Constitution are meant for them. Blacks and other minorities who are citizens should have the same rights so whining about some vandalism and looting seems ridiculous especially after they have defended the traitors who attack the Capital.
The Republican Party has some folks who might make better democrats. No one knows why they are Republicans, except perhaps they like to pretend to be what they aren't.
I've been in here saing Mitch McConnel and his wife are not fit for pub lic office because of their financial ties to Chinese military interests, and saying also that a lot of specific dems are not either, for the same reasons.
I remember when our leaders opened up their loving arms to the Chinese mainland. I have connections with several Taiwanese or Nationalist sources, and was not overly impressed with the wisdom of all that China commie love.
But we were told they would change if we loved them, and would become great civil and bus;iness partners. But it has sorta gone the other way. As late as a few years ago, people like Maurice Strong still believed we could manage them with favors and incentives and some banking measures, but it has become fairly clear it's going the other way. They are managing us with favors and outright payola to our key leadership and our business leaders, while compromising every advantage we ever had.
Our politicians are so bought up we have no one who will stand up for our human rights.
The fact is, political manipulators regularly set up false flag groups on both sides of an issue. I think the Proud Boys are just that, and most other obnoxious right-wing fakirs.Great post!