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Quin has lost his mind

No one scouts the Jazz enough in the regular season to care about shutting Ingles down. Most team will get out on Favors, Crowder, and Rubio shooting threes in the regular season. This is the playoffs the Rockets know to let them shoot. We knew this was a problem before we got a false sense of confidence playing a bunch of basement dwellers the last quarter of the season.

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There will be no comparison between shamet and Allen after this playoff. Funny how DL picked Allen over shamet because of his "shooting"

Choosing to focus your complaints against Allen after this game strikes me as a bit strange. He had 9 points on 5 shots and was +2 in 10 minutes. Allen isn't the reason Crowder is like 2-13 from 3 this series, or why Ingles has disappeared, or why Mitchell can't get untracked.
 
Tough for the team to trade him back then, especially given that he is misleading the management with mixed signals...

I would say the real prob was wasting high draft picks (kanter, burke, exum)

I don't think there was a mixed signal when his wife posted a picture of their baby in a white shirt with a green shamrock on it in January (1 month before the trade deadline and 6 months after the Celtics rumors). That the point when you think our GM would've started to try and recoup some talent for the guy we invested years into. That's just me using common sense though. ??????? HMMMMMMMM??????????????????????????????
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Your right, no way in hell for us to EVER SEE IT COMING!! CAUGHT COMPLETELY OFF GUARD!!!
 
Jazz can't hit. Rockets can't miss.

This comes down to who shows up, not what you're capable of. John and Karl just missed their shots too or am I missing something?

Let's also not forget that John and Karl continually "choked" in the playoffs, until they didn't. If Twitter and Jazzfanz were around in those days (maybe Jazzfanz was), no doubt many of the same people now who hold them in hagiographic reverence would have, back in the day, been calling on the FO to get rid of the bums, break them up, rebuild, etc.

Jazz are playing poorly, no doubt. Houston, however, is the better team and a bad matchup. Again, for those people who wanted to face Houston out of some old school fanciful notion that true champions travel the hard road, I hope you're happy.
 
Quin definitely outsmarted himself. Hopefully, the Jazz will revert to their normal defense. Harden's offensive game has become as good as any guard in NBA history, including MJ. You just have to hope he has some bad games.

Please don't compare Harden to MJ. Because of the 3's? Because of the Triple doubles? Are you aware of the Watered down defense that the "today" NBA roots are build from? "As good as any guard in NBA history, including MJ". What the hell are you smoking? Your not even allowed to play defense in today's NBA. Harden wouldn't make it through the first 3 quarters getting elbows to his ribs driving the lane with the 90's defenders. How old are you?? It is so damn obvious that you are younger than 35, it's not even funny. What else is going to come out of your mouth? Your capable of saying anything at this point, the stupidest thing that someone could think has already been said by you. Is Enes Kanter as good as Moses Malone? Lebron would probably dance circles around Larry Bird in his prime according to you. Ben Simmons is only a year away from being the guy that your find worthy enough before you start buying underwear with his name stitched in the ***. Baaahaaaaaaaaa!!!! You have me dying right now. When your balls do decide to drop, remember that a vasectomy is the greatest gift that you can provide to the intelligence of man kind. But lets face the facts. Someone with your condition is going to infect the world with 5 or 6 little rascals that are just like you. Further contributing to the over abundant population affected by the Dunning Kruger effect.

Harden is definitely by far ever as great as MJ. Your so right.
 
Let's look at the performance by players Lindsey has acquired over the past few years:

Allen is ****
Bradley is ****
Neto is ****
Korver is ****
Thabo is ****
Udoh is ****
Exum is ****
Niang is ****

That's more than half the roster. Sure Rubio, Mitchell and Gobert have underperformed, but can you tell me what other GM has filled his roster with so many scrubs? And you tell me I'm wrong about Lindsey. That he's one of the best GM's in the league. That's complete bull ****. Lindsey needs to be fired.


agreed. I suspected this 2 years ago and was vilified here over it.. or perhaps i had already ascended to super villain status by that point, i forget.
 
It took 2 away losses against one of the best teams to start this. I’m impressed. The thing is, morale seems to be down for some reason. If there is no motivation, there is no success. At this point, since players are healthy, it’s Snyder’s job to find what motivates them and do it. Trying new stuff produces the exact opposite result. I hope they gather themselves at home. It would be such a pity a team like the Jazz who are the game’s defensive influence to many others gets swept or do not give the Rockets a run for their money.
 
Please don't compare Harden to MJ. Because of the 3's? Because of the Triple doubles? Are you aware of the Watered down defense that the "today" NBA roots are build from? "As good as any guard in NBA history, including MJ". What the hell are you smoking? Your not even allowed to play defense in today's NBA. Harden wouldn't make it through the first 3 quarters getting elbows to his ribs driving the lane with the 90's defenders. How old are you?? It is so damn obvious that you are younger than 35, it's not even funny. What else is going to come out of your mouth? Your capable of saying anything at this point, the stupidest thing that someone could think has already been said by you. Is Enes Kanter as good as Moses Malone? Lebron would probably dance circles around Larry Bird in his prime according to you. Ben Simmons is only a year away from being the guy that your find worthy enough before you start buying underwear with his name stitched in the ***. Baaahaaaaaaaaa!!!! You have me dying right now. When your balls do decide to drop, remember that a vasectomy is the greatest gift that you can provide to the intelligence of man kind. But lets face the facts. Someone with your condition is going to infect the world with 5 or 6 little rascals that are just like you. Further contributing to the over abundant population affected by the Dunning Kruger effect.

Harden is definitely by far ever as great as MJ. Your so right.
I'm 40 and I watched all the guys you are referring to. James Harden does stuff MJ never could. MJ was revolutionary in how he played. Wings didn't know how to guard him. The best defender of his era was 6'3" Joe Dumars who was about as athletic as Raymond Felton.

Every wing in today's game has to be able to defend on the perimeter. They train to guard guys who play like MJ. Even more, they now have to guard the 3. What Harden is doing offensively is incredible. Sure there was more contact in MJ's day, but you couldn't touch MJ. You couldn't hit him the same way other guys were getting hit.

For a concrete example, look at Reggie Miller. He played in that era and torched teams. Harden is miles better at everything than Reggie. Every facet of his game is much better than Reggie's.

So yes, Harden's offense can easily be compared to MJ. I actually think it's better. Harden is hitting step back 3's over 6'8" defenders. MJ hit fade away 14 footers over guys like Hornacek, Ehlo, Dumars, etc.

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Borderline sackable performance from Quin. Builds a defense for 4yrs then completely abandons it for some gimmicky rubbish because he has no confidence in:
a) what he's built
b) his players
c) ALL OF THE ABOVE

It’s exactly what I thought today , after the first few minutes and Quinn sticks with the stupid game plan , even Chris Webber was getting frustrated...

I don’t blame any of the players or the offence , Quinn has screwed with their minds so much , even on offence , all they can think about is defence .
 
I'm 40 and I watched all the guys you are referring to. James Harden does stuff MJ never could. MJ was revolutionary in how he played. Wings didn't know how to guard him. The best defender of his era was 6'3" Joe Dumars who was about as athletic as Raymond Felton.

Every wing in today's game has to be able to defend on the perimeter. They train to guard guys who play like MJ. Even more, they now have to guard the 3. What Harden is doing offensively is incredible. Sure there was more contact in MJ's day, but you couldn't touch MJ. You couldn't hit him the same way other guys were getting hit.

For a concrete example, look at Reggie Miller. He played in that era and torched teams. Harden is miles better at everything than Reggie. Every facet of his game is much better than Reggie's.

So yes, Harden's offense can easily be compared to MJ. I actually think it's better. Harden is hitting step back 3's over 6'8" defenders. MJ hit fade away 14 footers over guys like Hornacek, Ehlo, Dumars, etc.

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I think you have some recency bias. Because never did a team do what we are doing to Harden to MJ. Because analytics didn't exist to drive coaches out of their minds.

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