Quotes from W's forums

[JAZZGASM]

I think our overall talent level is close to GS, just in different ways. I love how the GS philosophy is to get 30 assists per game. Thier unselfish play and ball movement is what makes them so difficult to guard. Utah used to do that.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Some of the critiques of Rudy on this thread seem exceptionally repugnant. Clearly he needs to improve his game, but what exactly are the expectations here? Is he behind on some imaginary schedule?

Well Rudy talks about wanting to be the best player in the NBA, so certain expectations come when you say those kind of things.

 

[str8line]

I think our overall talent level is close to GS, just in different ways. I love how the GS philosophy is to get 30 assists per game. Thier unselfish play and ball movement is what makes them so difficult to guard. Utah used to do that.

Would have liked to have seen this on our last possession.

 

[str8line]

Yeah that's true. But when it is on he looks amazing. That's why I said he is becoming elite. It's really hit or miss, but when he figures out timing it will be great.

It also seems to go hand in hand with him catching the ball, hopefully he will just get more coordinated and improve in both areas.

I wonder if part of the problem is Rudy's height and the passer getting the ball where Rudy needs it.

 

[NAOS]

Well Rudy talks about wanting to be the best player in the NBA, so certain expectations come when you say those kind of things.

is that why you're still living with your grandma? Shoot low and take zero ****s, amiright?

 

[magic]

Well, we almost beat the best small-ball team out there last night. To me, that was an excellent sign. I have been worried that the Jazz might be making a huge fundamental mistake going Big Ball, but last night showed it can work.

Improve the PG play (Exum!?!?), add a 3 and D guy, get the 3 headed monster Hay/Burks/Hood to mesh better and look out.

Well to be fair GSW didn't play their small ball lineup. And even if they did, it's not the same as the small ball lineup with Harrison Barnes in it. If we had the same result or better against that lineup, then I'd be more confident in saying that Big Ball can work.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Would have liked to have seen this on our last possession.

The problem is that is what we do now. Take a lot of contested perimeter shots.

Our offense strategy with mostly on ball screens and dribbles sucks. I was so excited when out first two plays against the clips (iirc) was run through the horns (think Spurs) offense and we scored two times in a row. Havent seen it since. If we start running better sets we could be elite.

 

[fishonjazz]

Well Rudy talks about wanting to be the best player in the NBA, so certain expectations come when you say those kind of things.

I bet Hayward and Burks also want to be the best player in the nba

 

[fishonjazz]

Well to be fair GSW didn't play their small ball lineup. And even if they did, it's not the same as the small ball lineup with Harrison Barnes in it. If we had the same result or better against that lineup, then I'd be more confident in saying that Big Ball can work.

Good point

 

[zman1527]

Well to be fair GSW didn't play their small ball lineup. And even if they did, it's not the same as the small ball lineup with Harrison Barnes in it. If we had the same result or better against that lineup, then I'd be more confident in saying that Big Ball can work.

Harrison Barnes is the key to the whole deal? Did not know that. Also, we are missing Exum. I still think the game clearly showed that Tall Ball can compete with Small Ball.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Harrison Barnes is the key to the whole deal? Did not know that. Also, we are missing Exum. I still think the game clearly showed that Tall Ball can compete with Small Ball.

Barnes is a key piece to how they play small ball, yes (strong and big enough to not get bullied by most bigs most of the time, good enough shooter and ballhandler to spread the floor to come out on the net positive side of the [mis] matchup). They can't really do the 5-out/Dray at C lineup without him (which they don't do that often, because that's the ace up their sleeve that they don't always have to use).

No one in the NBA has really had an answer for that lineup. Which is why it's pretty important that Rudy just be able to exploit a hybrid forward (Barnes, Green would probably be guarding Favors as he's the greater threat) guarding him.

 

[akirac73]

I think the key for Rudy is getting stronger and developing a vice grip on the ball. He has decent footwork and some nice up and under moves, but the ball is too easily knocked loose out of his hands, so more times than not it leads to turnover.