Racism and privilege

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Your probably right, and I probably just can't see it. Thank you for pointing it out to me.

How can you have a serious conversation with someone whose claiming that people are trying to to them from saying "Christmas" or "terrorist"? I should try ot keep in mind that I;m easy to troll.

If you want to deny that there is a very strong, public push to make those words inappropriate then be my guest. I guess you have the privilege of doing so.

Yes I have actually had people try to correct and/or reprimand me for saying Merry Christmas.

 

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I rarely lock the door at night, but if I'm not the last person upstairs, someone else probably will.

I was mugged when I was 20, and still have a small scar on my head from the crowbar. I never felt the need for a gun, before or after.

For me it is about being prepared on a reasonable level. I pray to God that I am never in the situation where I would need to protect my family in a violent encounter, let alone use a firearm. But I want to be prepared in case I do. Fear is no part of it. Having a reasonable amount of preparedness and prevention goes a long way in preventing any potential violent or even uncomfortable situation. One of the lessons I have learned in life.

 

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If you want to deny that there is a very strong, public push to make those words inappropriate then be my guest. I guess you have the privilege of doing so.

Can you show me a few articles? Links? I've missed them.

Hint: noting that some retail chains are using "Happy Holidays' doesn't count, because that doesn't limit what you can say.

Yes I have actually had people try to correct and/or reprimand me for saying Merry Christmas.

They don't think you should say it to anyone? Or they pointed out that they don't celebrate Christmas? If the latter, isn't it a matter of simple politeness to wish them well regarding whatever holiday they do celebrate, if any?

 

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For me it is about being prepared on a reasonable level. I pray to God that I am never in the situation where I would need to protect my family in a violent encounter, let alone use a firearm. But I want to be prepared in case I do. Fear is no part of it. Having a reasonable amount of preparedness and prevention goes a long way in preventing any potential violent or even uncomfortable situation. One of the lessons I have learned in life.

Why would you prepare for some negative event you don't fear? Why invest any time or money unless you're trying to avoid negative consequences?

 

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Can you show me a few articles? Links? I've missed them.

They don't think you should say it to anyone? Or they pointed out that they don't celebrate Christmas? If the latter, isn't it a matter of simple politeness to wish them well regarding whatever holiday they do celebrate, if any?

hahahaha. Jesus...

It is also simple politeness for me to wish them a merry christmas, easter, thanksgiving, 4th of july...

 

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hahahaha. Jesus...

No, One Brow, although we are often confused.

It is also simple politeness for me to wish them a merry christmas, easter, thanksgiving, 4th of july...

So, you insisting on wishing them a joyous celebration of a holiday they have informed you they don't celebrate is your idea of politeness?

Edit: really, please offer one article where people are trying to get private citizens to stop using "Christmas". Just one.

 

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I guess, as usual, we can agree to disagree. You can keep worrying about always being a privileged white racist with no means or hope of ever changing, and I will continue playing basketball and having barbecues with my black friends and talking about issues that matter to them (and me) and do my best with my permanently flawed racial judgement to be a little less racist each day.

Me previous response was probably a little more flippant than it should have been. How often at these barbecues have you asked you friends what some of the small, frequent frustrations they face from being black are, if they have noticed anything from you, and what you might be able to do to make things better? What were some of the things they've said, and what did you do about them?

 

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I'm done watching you try and pass some deep seated guilt you have onto everyone else.

While I was dismissive of this, I didn't really explain why. So, I'll do that now, just to be clear.

I regularly get job offers for about 33% more (or even higher) than I currently make. A big part of this is because I have a white name, a white voice on the phone (lived in a small Iowa city until I was 9), and degrees from two mostly white universities. So, I'm basically working for 75% (or less) of my worth, in a sense donating the other 25% by performing this job (working for a non-profit company that owns several local health care clinics and a hospital, all of whom have a primary mission of serving the very poor).

So, while I have no problem acknowledging that, like any other human, I'm a product of a racist culture and have internalized its racist narrative, any "white guilt" I might have experienced would have been sated. Any notion of "white guilt" you are reading in my words is coming from you.

 

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https://gawker.com/teaching-while-black-and-blue-1473659925

 

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While I was dismissive of this, I didn't really explain why. So, I'll do that now, just to be clear.

I regularly get job offers for about 33% more (or even higher) than I currently make. A big part of this is because I have a white name, a white voice on the phone (lived in a small Iowa city until I was 9), and degrees from two mostly white universities. So, I'm basically working for 75% (or less) of my worth, in a sense donating the other 25% by performing this job (working for a non-profit company that owns several local health care clinics and a hospital, all of whom have a primary mission of serving the very poor).

So, while I have no problem acknowledging that, like any other human, I'm a product of a racist culture and have internalized its racist narrative, any "white guilt" I might have experienced would have been sated. Any notion of "white guilt" you are reading in my words is coming from you.

So, are you white or not?

 

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So, are you white or not?

What effect would either answer have on your interpretation of my posts?

 

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What effect would either answer have on your interpretation of my posts?

Well since you have said that a white person cannot understand or speak for a non white on racism...if you are not white it means you cannot speak for or understand a white person on racism.

I am pretty certain I know this answer.