BluesRocker
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You mad, blues? It's not like you to lose your cool, bro.
Im not mad. Just saving the world from stupid.
Its what I got to do, man!
Its what I got to do.
Hey PKM, gives us gullables some more fake trade rumors. Im bored.
You mad, blues? It's not like you to lose your cool, bro.
Do you know whats going on behind the scenes? Huh, DUMBASS?!?!?
No you dont, do you? So how do you know I am wrong.
Let me guess, you know somebody who works for the Jazz?
Im not mad. Just saving the world from stupid.
Its what I got to do, man!
Its what I got to do.
Hey PKM, gives us gullables some more fake trade rumors. Im bored.
You mad, blues? It's not like you to lose your cool, bro.
Im glad Raja is throwing a fit. It might force KOC to actually do what a GM should do. Which is make moves to improve the team. Kevin is the king of do nothing though. So it wont surprise me if nothing happens. I can see KOC just forcing Bell and Torbin to make up.
KOC actually does something when there is a fire in the house. Thats one of the few times he actually gets proactive.
He traded for Korver after Sloan threw Girisuck out of a game and it became obvious just about to everybody that Girisuck was worthless.
He traded Deron after Deron tore down the house and our HOF coach left and Deron never committed to anything.
He is good at salvaging something out of tough situations.
So lets hope Bell throws a punch at one of the coaching staff before this summer ends. I am sure his behind will be shipped out of here in a jiffy
Iam with you though mostly on this topic. KOC apologists act like as if they know everything behind the doors and as if KOC came up with one brilliant idea after another only to be shot down by Sloan and Miller. Yet there is hardly proof of the same and its all speculation. Now I am not saying that KOC has complete freedom or he has the ultimate authority in this organization. But it gets irksome when every good move is credited to KOC and any bad moves or a good move not made is attributed to Sloan(or Miller) handcuffing KOC.
Did Sloan ask KOC to go get Amaechi or Palacio or Mcleod or all the other worthless stiffs we have had in the last decade? Or did Sloan suggest that we draft Lopez over Parker or give up on Mo Williams after one season or extend Memo or give away Wes Mathews to Porty?
Besides draft mistakes there have been many putrid FA signings done by this organization and there is no proof whatsoever that Sloan was involved in those.
Iam also constantly amused at people who proclaim KOC is a genius for quickly rebuilding this team when in the last 3 years before that the team constantly regressed and kept getting eliminated earlier and earlier in the playoffs and the same team kept coming back year after year with just cosmetic changes.
Yes he might have done a good job of quickly getting this team back to the playoffs(like he did in 2005) but what led to a rebuilding situation in the first place? why did the team keep getting eliminated in the first or secnd round every year in the playoffs? why could we never get over the hump? Oh, I forgot, it was all because of Sloan.
Hey dude, we won the pre-season two years ago. We were the only undefeated team in the league. The championship parade was awesome, even though KOC has developed such an incredibly humble team that they didn't even show up. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it.Thank you!
Finally someone comes to help me
I dont think O Connor is terrible. He just isnt as good as people make him out to be
Amazing that only a couple people agree with me on this.
I say, where are the championships to warrant everyone bowing down to him and proclaiming he is fault free?
To a Jazz fan the Jazz modus operandi seems to be like this:
Do whatever it takes to quickly put together a team that can make the playoffs and get fanbase excited. Stay with them for a few years and make the fans believe you are going to eventually compete for a championship. But then dont do anything further or dont break the bank for a title when you have a team that can make the playoffs every year. Do small tweaks and milk the team to see how far they can go every year. Dont forget to mention about "internal improvement" every time. If all that pisses off a star in your team who wants to win it all, so be it. Let him walk away or ship his behind out for a few picks. Start rebuilding again while still continuing "to compete". Rinse. Repeat.
Atleast we are better than the Clippers, right?
KOC apologists act like as if they know everything behind the doors...its all speculation.
How is this any different from the KOC haters?
Nobody knows what really going on except KOC ...... oh and Blues he does too.
How is it any different from KOC apologists?How is this any different from the KOC haters?
Wtf man?
Seriously, do you know how that sounds?
You keep trying to argue that I dont know what goes on behind closed doors, but you think its perfectly reasonable for you to speculate what has or hasnt gone one. How are you not contradicting yourself? You dont know either. All we can go off of is what has happened out in the open. Which isnt much. And that is what we are talking about.
So why do you and others kerp telling me what is going on behind the scenes. None of you know more about that than I do. Nobody does. Not Kevin or anybody in the Jazz even talk about it.
I dont expect him to be pulling off miraculous trades every year, but I would expect something to show he is trying. Justanding pat every year when you arent winning titles is stupid. Id rather go down swinging. Especially when we are at a time and juncture when the team needs it. Not every year or offseason should big moves be made. But there is times for it.
The Deron Williams trade doesnt really count. He made that move out of fear and to offset the risk of losing Deron. Show me a big move he has made to improve the team, not start over. Any mouth breather could have pulled that Deron trade off.
Wtf man?
Seriously, do you know how that sounds?
You keep trying to argue that I dont know what goes on behind closed doors, but you think its perfectly reasonable for you to speculate what has or hasnt gone one. How are you not contradicting yourself? You dont know either. All we can go off of is what has happened out in the open. Which isnt much. And that is what we are talking about.
So why do you and others kerp telling me what is going on behind the scenes. None of you know more about that than I do. Nobody does. Not Kevin or anybody in the Jazz even talk about it.
I dont expect him to be pulling off miraculous trades every year, but I would expect something to show he is trying. Justanding pat every year when you arent winning titles is stupid. Id rather go down swinging. Especially when we are at a time and juncture when the team needs it. Not every year or offseason should big moves be made. But there is times for it.
The Deron Williams trade doesnt really count. He made that move out of fear and to offset the risk of losing Deron. Show me a big move he has made to improve the team, not start over. Any mouth breather could have pulled that Deron trade off.
How about keeping possibly the smallest market team in the NBA relevant and very competitive for the past 25 years? Or is winning a championship the only way to keep your job? Should we just shuffle through random GM's until one wins us a championship? Should we fire Corbin and just hire someone who is perfect and really wants to coach in SLC, who has never been fired for not performing before? Should we just trade Raja for a better player even though nobody wants Raja, not us not anyone. You make it out like KOC is turning down all these really good offers for our crap players. I just think you are being completely unreasonable and unrealistic. We should just go out and take another teams GM, I don't think its quite that easy.