I know that LHM Vetoed an AK for Marion trade. LHM said so. As for the Boozer trades It's hear say. But I've heard it from a few people, including people outside the Jazz organization
Raja can't let it go
- Thread starter mellow
- Start date
I know that LHM Vetoed an AK for Marion trade. LHM said so. As for the Boozer trades It's hear say. But I've heard it from a few people, including people outside the Jazz organization
D
Deleted member 848
Guest
Someone sig this.
Raja should have been playing. Lights out shooter and certified badass. *** all of y'all. He is better than Carroll or Howard. That being said, **** him for next yaer.
Last edited by a moderator:
gregbroncs
Well-Known Member
Lights out shooter? He was afraid to take them even when wide open. He was the worst wing on the team this year and that includes CJ. Hell Carrolle was far superior to him. Bell played far too many minutes to start the year. He played exactly the right amount of minutes in the playoffs. And now he should be traded for as much as they can get. I figure a sack of cow dung is to high an asking price though.
Last edited by a moderator:
Fair enough. I still felt like he had to be respected as an outsided shoooter by defnseesess.
D
Deleted member 848
Guest
BluesRocker
Banned
First of all Mantooth we could have offered Okur and Boozer for Garnet and a pick if we had too. Boozer and Okurs value were pretty high then as people thought they were better than they were. Their salaries matched up perfectly with Garnett's. I remember it would work out on the trade machine. I was shouting from rooftops they should trade those two clowns. Right after the Spurs series I was telling everybody Boozer and Okur had to go because of how bad they were in defense. Thats what I dont get is, how could Sloan and Kevin not see this then.
This is my point. We had assets(Boozer,Memo,picks,ect). We had a guy ready to deliver us if we had the right pieces around him(Deron). We should have gotten serious and made some bold moves, to make a serious push for a Championship. Instead we stood pat and ran with that clearly flawed team. With a highlight of adding Korver. Yaaaay Korver!
As to what Ben said. If we didnt trade Boozer because Sloan blocked it then I could give him a little slack, but we dont know that for sure. Never the less it was still a mistake, and even more the reason why its good Jerry is gone. But what I still dont get is, even without Larry and Jerry here we are repeating the same mistake over again with Al, Devin, and to some extent Millsap. So why is that? Kevin O' Connor is the only constant here.
We'll see what happens in the offseason here, but my money is on him not doing anything except maybe getting rid of Bell. Yet again putting Ty in a tuff spot with vets vs youth.
Pretty sure that's how he got hurt this year.
Just saw the interview. Raja was very classy. I'm not a fan of Bell, but here we can't knock him. He came across well if you saw the interview.
He said Ty didn't speak to him for the last 2 months, and tried his best just to stay ready. Playoffs came, and they iced him on the bench.
You have to admit that was strange. We could have used him over Howard.
There is another side to this of course. They didn't ask him anything about his blowup with Ty. Raja was in a very good mood, and said he had a lot of fun
watching the young guys. He just didn't understand Coach completely ignoring him. No mention though if Bell tried to reach out out to Corbin. Not a Raja fan, but
he didn't come off bad personally at all.
He said Ty didn't speak to him for the last 2 months, and tried his best just to stay ready. Playoffs came, and they iced him on the bench.
You have to admit that was strange. We could have used him over Howard.
There is another side to this of course. They didn't ask him anything about his blowup with Ty. Raja was in a very good mood, and said he had a lot of fun
watching the young guys. He just didn't understand Coach completely ignoring him. No mention though if Bell tried to reach out out to Corbin. Not a Raja fan, but
he didn't come off bad personally at all.
freakazoid
Well-Known Member
Good post.
I don't think there's any question whatsoever that KOC has been handcuffed quite a bit in his ability to make moves with this team, both by ownership and with Jerry. I have been pretty vocal this year about not agreeing with the strategy our FO had this season, but it cracks me up when people like BR nitpick every little thing that happens or doesn't happen, as if they have the slightest clue as to what's going on behind the scenes. We don't, and judging KOC by the things we know, he has been pretty damn good as a GM, and he's not even close to playing on a level field with other GMs. He's at a disadvantage financially compared to a lot of teams, and in a big way with FAs. I definately would have liked for things to have been handled differently this season in respect to how this team is being built, but it would have come with the risk of having ticket sales drop off temporarily, and I don't think ownership is ok with that.
I was hoping that KOC would have complete freedom with Jerry gone, but judging by how things were handled this season, I don't believe that's the case. He certainly has more freedom in building the team, but not like I hoped. Obviously, KOC has made plenty of mistakes, just like every other GM in the league, but it gets a little silly when people start complaining about every single trade made around the league, as if KOC should have been able to swoop in every time with a better deal. He deserves to take some criticism for some of the things he's done, but the nitpicking really gets ridiculous.
No. I actually found it rather appropriate.
The Black Swordsman
Well-Known Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5VFC7fPQF8
Here's the video.
Read the comments btw.
Here's the video.
Read the comments btw.
Man, I still like Raja.
If by Raja you mean ganga .. then yeah.
Last edited:
Hartsock
Banned
I'm with you, the dumbass complains about KOC like he knows what the **** is going on. Blues for GM.
BluesRocker
Banned
I like you freakazoid but this is a ridiculous post. And I am sure you will see what I am saying when I point it out.
You go and say that people like me dont know whats going on behind closed doors and dont know what has or hasnt transpired. But then go on to say what a great job Kevin has done. As if you know what he has been up to. Are you, and the people for KOC the only ones who can judge what he has done? Yes, all I have is tidbits of info and the final result to go off of, but so do you and others.
I wouldnt be so harsh if I hadnt just sat through three straight years of not dealing Boozer, and tearing my hair out over it. To repeating the same thing with Al Jefferson. KOC acts as if we all got years to burn waiting for his perfect move or whatever it is he is waiting for.
You say Im nitpicking. I say I am demanding more from the franchise. Like a big city, big market fan would. Everybody here in Utah seems to be ok with not achieving the ultimate goal. Including the franchise. Infact everyone seems so proud of it. Jerry was celebrated constantly for how long his tenure was. But yet he never won a chip even though he has had the greatest pf and pg of all time. People were all excited about 20 years as head coach. I was like god damn, can we get a new coach this isnt working. But thats how it is around here. Everyone should fall in line and worship Jerry and KOC and drink all the Miller Koolaid. Dont anyone dare question them.
BluesRocker
Banned
Do you know whats going on behind the scenes? Huh, DUMBASS?!?!?
No you dont, do you? So how do you know I am wrong.
Let me guess, you know somebody who works for the Jazz?