Republicans and Fascism

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Kinda ****ed up

All they need are some hoods.

 

[LogGrad98]

All they need are some hoods.

Eh we are well past hoods. They openly flaunt it now. It has become their identity and it gets them elected to wear their white supremacy on their sleeve. Yes, we have fallen that far as a society. I can only hope this is indicative of a giant extinction burst for racism in our country, but I don't hold out any hope for that. Maybe the race war that Manson wanted will happen after all.

 

[The Thriller]

I think this is a good thing. I hope Americans everywhere should be reminded everyday on who Trump is. What do you think?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/25/tech/meta-facebook-trump-decision/index.html

 

[Red]

What a jerk this guy is. If he were the GOP candidate in 2024, good luck finding broad appeal with his messaging…

Students threaten to sue DeSantis over rejection of AP course on African American studies

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis could face a lawsuit for rejecting an African American AP history course from the state's curriculum.

abcnews.go.com

View: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/01/24/desantis-defends-ban-african-american-studies-course-syllabus-topics-black-queer-contornos-ebof-vpx.cnn

 

[The Thriller]

What a jerk this guy is. If he were the GOP candidate in 2024, good luck finding broad appeal with his messaging…

Students threaten to sue DeSantis over rejection of AP course on African American studies

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis could face a lawsuit for rejecting an African American AP history course from the state's curriculum.

abcnews.go.com

View: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/01/24/desantis-defends-ban-african-american-studies-course-syllabus-topics-black-queer-contornos-ebof-vpx.cnn

The educator inside of me just shakes his head. Isn’t the history of some of the least known/recognized people worth studying? Or do we only want to “study” the topics we already know about? The entire point of education, especially AP classes, is to learn *new* things. Sadly, a large contingent of Floridians have lost their curiosity and find study to be threatening to the ignorant identity/culture. So they want to cancel it. Talk about cancel culture!

 

[The Thriller]

I found this article Interesting

The GOP Is a Circus, Not a Caucus

The speaker pays off his debts to the extremist base.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Red]

The educator inside of me just shakes his head. Isn’t the history of some of the least known/recognized people worth studying? Or do we only want to “study” the topics we already know about? The entire point of education, especially AP classes, is to learn *new* things. Sadly, a large contingent of Floridians have lost their curiosity and find study to be threatening to the ignorant identity/culture. So they want to cancel it. Talk about cancel culture!

DeSantis may think he’s winning in his war on education, but he will fail and this war will fail.

Florida Teachers Are Now Hiding Books to Avoid Felony Charges

A new Florida law that bans books has teachers hiding their classroom libraries out of fear they'll be prosecuted for felonies.

tinybeans.com

 

[Al-O-Meter]

DeSantis may think he’s winning in his war on education, but he will fail and this war will fail.

Florida Teachers Are Now Hiding Books to Avoid Felony Charges

A new Florida law that bans books has teachers hiding their classroom libraries out of fear they'll be prosecuted for felonies.

tinybeans.com

DeSantis is winning his war on providing good education for those in his state. It is important to understand that College Board is a corporation providing educational content. DeSantis rejected a College Board product for not meeting the educational standards of his state. College Board listened to the critiques and adjusted the content of their educational product to bring it up to the state standards. After the adjustments to meet standards, the College Board course will likely be allowed. Government has standards for nearly everything. Kudos to DeSantis for not being afraid of applying the proper standards, as he should have, even though he knew that politically motivated nincompoops would deliberately mischaracterize the situation.

As for teachers feeling the need to hide their child porn so as not to get prosecuted for child porn, maybe they shouldn't have child porn in their libraries.

 

[LogGrad98]

As for teachers feeling the need to hide their child porn so as not to get prosecuted for child porn, maybe they should have child porn in their libraries.

Trolls gonna troll. Child porn in their libraries...

 

[fishonjazz]

Trolls gonna troll. Child porn in their libraries...

Its ALWAYS conservatives talking about child porn and pedophiles. Always seem to know all about those types of things too. How to hide it and where to hide it and everything else about it. Its weird and creepy tbh.

 

[One Brow]

DeSantis is winning his war on providing good education for those in his state.

I agree.

Was that intentional, or did you confuse "on" with "for"?

As for teachers feeling the need to hide their child porn so as not to get prosecuted for child porn, maybe they shouldn't have child porn in their libraries.

They didn't.

 

[LogGrad98]

They didn't.

You mean they keep their child porn right out in the open!! The fiends!!

 

[Al-O-Meter]

They didn't.

The teachers who are not hanging on to child porn don't have to worry about being charged with a felony, which is the fear Red highlighted. If a teacher has in their possession material that could bring felony charges if the authorities knew of it, it is probably child porn. I suppose it could be classified documents seeing as everyone seems to have them, but I don't think people are getting charged for that any more. If it is a teacher and the material would get that teacher a felony, it is probably child porn.

 

[LogGrad98]

The teachers who are not hanging on to child porn don't have to worry about being charged with a felony, which is the fear Red highlighted. If a teacher has in their possession material that could bring felony charges if the authorities knew of it, it is probably child porn. I suppose it could be classified documents seeing as everyone seems to have them, but I don't think people are getting charged for that any more. If it is a teacher and the material would get that teacher a felony, it is probably child porn.

No, it's probably things like "The Color Purple" and "Roots", because they talk about what he is trying to ban, anything discussing race relations. So we don't want our precious children exposed to the horrors of the white man's history, it will damage their innocent sensibilities.

Of course there is a nude scene in Roots I believe, so you will probably label that porn, so troll away my troll friend, troll away.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

No, it's probably things like "The Color Purple" and "Roots", because they talk about what he is trying to ban, anything discussing race relations. So we don't want our precious children exposed to the horrors of the white man's history, it will damage their innocent sensibilities.

Of course there is a nude scene in Roots I believe, so you will probably label that porn, so troll away my troll friend, troll away.

Nice try but they don't charge felonies for possession of The Color Purple or Roots. They do charge felonies for possession of child porn.

 

[One Brow]

The teachers who are not hanging on to child porn don't have to worry about being charged with a felony, which is the fear Red highlighted. If a teacher has in their possession material that could bring felony charges if the authorities knew of it, it is probably child porn.

It must be nice to be that naive and innocent.

 

[LogGrad98]

Nice try but they don't charge felonies for possession of The Color Purple or Roots. They do charge felonies for possession of child porn.

You haven't read a single thing about what he was targeting have you?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

You haven't read a single thing about what he was targeting have you?

Sure I have. Here is a snip from HB1467 which details what is being targeted. This is law cited in the article linked by Red which caused teachers to hide books in their libraries for fear of being charged with a felony:

Any material used in a classroom, made available in a school library, or included on a reading list contains content that is pornographic or prohibited under s. 847.012

Now here is 847.012, the statute cited in HB1467 and for which there is a possible felony for furnishing materials to minors:

(1) As used in this section, “knowingly” means having the general knowledge of, reason to know, or a belief or ground for belief which warrants further inspection or inquiry of both:

(a) The character and content of any material described in this section which is reasonably susceptible of examination by the defendant; and

(b) The age of the minor.

(2) A person's ignorance of a minor's age, a minor's misrepresentation of his or her age, a bona fide belief of a minor's age, or a minor's consent may not be raised as a defense in a prosecution for a violation of this section.

(3) A person may not knowingly sell, rent, or loan for monetary consideration to a minor:

(a) Any picture, photograph, drawing, sculpture, motion picture film, videocassette, or similar visual representation or image of a person or portion of the human body which depicts nudity or sexual conduct, sexual excitement, sexual battery, bestiality, or sadomasochistic abuse and which is harmful to minors; or

(b) Any book, pamphlet, magazine, printed matter however reproduced, or sound recording that contains any matter defined in s. 847.001 , explicit and detailed verbal descriptions or narrative accounts of sexual excitement, or sexual conduct and that is harmful to minors.

(4) A person may not knowingly use a minor in the production of any material described in subsection (3), regardless of whether the material is intended for distribution to minors or is actually distributed to minors.

(5) An adult may not knowingly distribute to a minor on school property, or post on school property, any material described in subsection (3).  As used in this subsection, the term “school property” means the grounds or facility of any kindergarten, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, or secondary school, whether public or nonpublic.  This subsection does not apply to the distribution or posting of school-approved instructional materials that by design serve as a major tool for assisting in the instruction of a subject or course by school officers, instructional personnel, administrative personnel, school volunteers, educational support employees, or managers as those terms are defined in s. 1012.01 .

(6) Any person violating any provision of this section commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 , s. 775.083 , or s. 775.084 .

(7) Every act, thing, or transaction forbidden by this section constitutes a separate offense and is punishable as such.

(8)(a) The circuit court has jurisdiction to enjoin a violation of this section upon complaint filed by the state attorney in the name of the state upon the relation of such state attorney.

(b) After the filing of such a complaint, the judge to whom it is presented may grant an order restraining the person complained of until final hearing or further order of the court.  Whenever the relator state attorney requests a judge of such court to set a hearing upon an application for a restraining order, the judge shall set the hearing for a time within 3 days after the making of the request.  The order may not be made unless the judge is satisfied that sufficient notice of the application therefor has been given to the party restrained of the time when and place where the application for the restraining order is to be made.

(c) The person sought to be enjoined is entitled to a trial of the issues within 1 day after joinder of issue, and a decision shall be rendered by the court within 2 days after the conclusion of the trial.

(d) If a final decree of injunction is entered, it must contain a provision directing the defendant having the possession, custody, or control of the materials, matters, articles, or things affected by the injunction to surrender the same to the sheriff and requiring the sheriff to seize and destroy the same.  The sheriff shall file a certificate of her or his compliance.

(e) In any action brought as provided in this section, a bond or undertaking may not be required of the state or the state attorney before the issuance of a restraining order provided for by paragraph (b), and the state or the state attorney may not be held liable for costs or for damages sustained by reason of the restraining order in any case where a final decree is rendered in favor of the person sought to be enjoined.

(f) Every person who has possession, custody, or control of, or otherwise deals with, any of the materials, matters, articles, or things described in this section, after the service upon her or him of a summons and complaint in an action for injunction brought under this section, is chargeable with knowledge of the contents and character thereof.

(9) The several sheriffs and state attorneys shall vigorously enforce this section within their respective jurisdictions.

(10) This section does not apply to the exhibition of motion pictures, shows, presentations, or other representations regulated under s. 847.013 .

The law that has teachers worried is about giving pornography to minors. It has zero to do with anything race related. If teachers are worried they'll be changed with a felony it is because they are worried the material in their possession is pornographic.

 

[One Brow]

The law that has teachers worried is about giving pornography to minors. It has zero to do with anything race related. If teachers are worried they'll be changed with a felony it is because they are worried the material in their possession is pornographic.

In The Color Purple, the lead character refers to men's genitalia as looking like an ugly frog (IIRC). Is that pornography? Could it be interpreted to be so by an official who wanted to see the book removed from the shelf?

 

[Gameface]

Its ALWAYS conservatives talking about child porn and pedophiles. Always seem to know all about those types of things too. How to hide it and where to hide it and everything else about it. Its weird and creepy tbh.

I mean trust the experts, right? Conservatives have "done their research" on child porn and they are telling us all about it. If I want to know anything about child porn I'm going to an expert, like a priest, bishop, MAGA faithful, or if it is a really hard child porn question that really needs that top level expertise I'll find the nearest Q-Anon devotee and I'll get the nitty gritty on child porn. Them Q-Anon folks have put in the work, done the research and they know just about anything there is to know about child porn. If there was a detective that investigated child porn and was personally responsible for putting dozens of child porn criminals in jail I'd tell them to STFU if a Q-Anon expert was talking about child porn. It's like the difference between book smarts and street smarts, and the Q collective has the street smarts, if you know what I mean.