Republicans and Fascism

[One Brow]

That is because Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 which took that power out of the hands of elected officials.

Make up your mind. If the incoming Congress can't increase the monetary supply, than the current one can't either.

Not that that I've ever seen you care about consistency.

 

[LogGrad98]

The single most important thing they'll do is stop passing giant unfunded spending packages. The Democrats have dug a giant hole and seem to believe the solution is to keep digging. Republicans may do a bunch of silly other things but the main thing they'll do to help the grocery bill is to put down the shovel. The American economy is quite resilient and it will bounce back if we can get some leaders who will stop effing with the currency in an effort to buy votes, and messing with the lifeblood of the economy in some quixotic quest to please the god of climate.

The economy is the most important thing that directly affects the most people. I have been pointing out the exact acts that were damaging the economy and the consequences they would have for a year. I was argued with by those who insisted that everything was great because everyone had money, inflation was only milk being a quarter or two more expensive, that inflation was temporary and would be gone by March of 2022. Here we are and I was right. The politicians those people supported need to go. They were wrong. They did a lot of damage to the economy. They need to be voted out and we need some fiscal conservatives to take their place. The American voters seem to agree with me.

So they will save the money by cutting social security and Medicare? Trillions in debt and the only way they can "save" the economy is to cut the lifeblood from thousands of people who rely on it and, frankly, already paid for it. That is cowardly and tyrannical. That is enough to keep them out.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Make up your mind. If the incoming Congress can't increase the monetary supply, than the current one can't either.

Not that that I've ever seen you care about consistency.

Decrease. I said Congress can't decrease the money supply. Congress can certainly increase the money supply and that is exactly what the Democrats have been doing with disastrous repercussions for economic stability. Our house is on fire. The Fed arrived late and initially with too few trucks but they are here now to fight the fire. Meanwhile the Democrats are still running around the house setting more fires. What the fiscal conservatives will do to help put the fire out is to stop lighting more fires while the Fed works to extinguish the inferno the firebug no-spending-package-too-big-democrats created.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

the only way they can "save" the economy is to cut the lifeblood from thousands of people

No. Of course not. This scare-mongering brinkmanship happens every time the debt ceiling needs to be raised. It is a ridiculous fight but the sadder part is how many are duped by the propaganda.

 

[Gameface]

We are 11 years from the 100 year mark since Hitler took power in Germany. Where was the global fascist movement in 1922 compared to 2022?

After WWII the world was supposed to have learned a lesson about fascism never to be forgotten. Less than 100 years later it seems a significant segment of the world population has developed a fever for the flavor of fascism.

Are massive amounts of people going to have to die again before we put this **** down?

 

[One Brow]

Decrease. I said Congress can't decrease the money supply. Congress can certainly increase the money supply

If they can increase by spending more than they take in (by borrowing),they can also decrease it by raising taxes and not spending. Instead, the Republicans will borrow more by cutting taxes without reducing spending.

 

[LogGrad98]

No. Of course not. This scare-mongering brinkmanship happens every time the debt ceiling needs to be raised. It is a ridiculous fight but the sadder part is how many are duped by the propaganda.

No the sad thing is what they choose to hold hostage. I do not believe it is a bluff. If they get the authority they will at least attempt to cut those programs. But even using that as "leverage" is like holding someone's baby out the window until they give you the tv remote then saying "relax I wouldn't have dropped her". It's morally wrong.

 

[Gameface]

No the sad thing is what they choose to hold hostage. I do not believe it is a bluff. If they get the authority they will at least attempt to cut those programs. But even using that as "leverage" is like holding someone's baby out the window until they give you the tv remote then saying "relax I wouldn't have dropped her". It's morally wrong.

1000% this.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

If they can increase by spending more than they take in (by borrowing),they can also decrease it by raising taxes and not spending.

That is not how our monetary system and government bonds work. This is clearly not a subject you have enough of a grasp on to be worth talking to. I've learned my lesson with you. Often there can be intelligent debate. Sometimes you fake it until you Google enough to get some familiarity. Sometimes you are completely ignorant and rely on flinging insults to try and cover your lack of knowledge. That statement displays such a deep misunderstanding that I'm pretty sure this topic is the last type.

 

[fishonjazz]

No the sad thing is what they choose to hold hostage. I do not believe it is a bluff. If they get the authority they will at least attempt to cut those programs. But even using that as "leverage" is like holding someone's baby out the window until they give you the tv remote then saying "relax I wouldn't have dropped her". It's morally wrong.

Ya if it is scare mongering, then you have to ask the question, Why are republican politicians saying they will cut SS, medicare and medicaid? Why do they want to scare people into not voting for them? Are any average american voters hoping for those things to go away?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I do not believe it is a bluff.

You sincerely believe the United States is going to default on its debt? You think all the banks, with all the money they pump into election campaigns, are going to sit back and let their bought and paid for politicians make them insolvent by making worthless the trillions of dollars worth of government debt they are counting as assets? That is how you think this is going to go? Really?

Wait, did you even know that is what the issue is? You do know the Medicare and Social Security are just the threatened items being listed by the Democrats because they know that will get public attention but the fight is over the entire debt, right? Medicare and Social Security debt won't be paid because they are United States debts and the US will default on the debt. That is what you think is going to happen?

Whatever LogGrad. I don't even know where to begin with that but you're wrong and I'm more than willing to place a wager on it. There may be another government shut down and a lot of finger pointing but the United States is not going to become insolvent and declare bankruptcy in the next 18 months.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Why do they want to scare people into not voting for them? Are any average american voters hoping for those things to go away?

They don't and no there aren't. The outlets you are reading that in are lefty outlets. It is lefty outlets that want to scare people into not voting for the GOP. The lefties here on this board are consuming propaganda and coming away with a twisted picture that isn't reality.