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RIP Phillip Seymour Hoffman

heyhey said:
It's not that I can't do it it is that I haven't managed to(yet hopefully). I know it sounds like semantics but I feel it is an important distinction.

I can it's just difficult.

A person that is diabetic has the responsibility to monitor their blood sugar, a person that has intense allergic reactions has the responsibility to carry an epi-pen, a manic-depressive to take their medication and see a therapist(if necessary), and an addict to take whatever steps may be necessary to manage their addiction. It isn't easy but I would never deny someone the dignity of hope and the ability to overcome by fatalistic statements or by relinquishing them of their responsibility.
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I see what you're saying, and agree to some degree. I just don't see it as relinquishing them of their responsibility though. Unless someone is trying to kill themselves by OD'ing, then I just don't agree. If they could stop, they probably would. I doubt this dude wanted to flush 20+ years of sobriety on a whim.
 
E.J. Wells said:
I see what you're saying, and agree to some degree. I just don't see it as relinquishing them of their responsibility though. Unless someone is trying to kill themselves by OD'ing, then I just don't agree. If they could stop, they probably would. I doubt this dude wanted to flush 20+ years of sobriety on a whim.
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Of course not on a whim. He fought a battle with addiction. He lost, but I give him credit for fighting. He had a moment of weakness, but I cannot believe that he was helpless. How did he manage to stay clean for 30 years if he had no control? How have others managed to overcome their addictions? He could have stopped.
 
DutchJazzer said:
but people think he should have not and feel sad etc etc. t
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People say he shouldn't have? That's odd. When you inject substances that you don't know the full composition of into your body there is always the risk of death.

And I don't get the problem with people feeling sad about another man's death, especially when they enjoyed his work.
 
You don't have to support the reason action a human died of to be able to feel sorry for him/her. It's not only human nature. It's nature. Many mammal creatures feel sad for the ones they lose too. You feel sad when you see someone die and you realize you won't be seeing him/her anymore in this life. You feel sad for the suffering he/she got.
 
heyhey said:
It's not that I can't do it it is that I haven't managed to(yet hopefully). I know it sounds like semantics but I feel it is an important distinction.

I can it's just difficult.

A person that is diabetic has the responsibility to monitor their blood sugar, a person that has intense allergic reactions has the responsibility to carry an epi-pen, a manic-depressive to take their medication and see a therapist(if necessary), and an addict to take whatever steps may be necessary to manage their addiction. It isn't easy but I would never deny someone the dignity of hope and the ability to overcome by fatalistic statements or by relinquishing them of their responsibility.
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just book a plain ticket to europe :P come for three months and you will never smoke again ;)
 
Wow, this thread deteriorated in a hurry. There's a reason Dutch is the only one on my ignore list. I've also gotten great at skimming over any reply where he is quoted too. I win.
 
Here's a guy who had fame, money, talent...basically anything somebody could ask for, and he was still trying to fill an empty aspect of his life with a needle.

That's what I find sad.
 
leftyjace said:
Wow, this thread deteriorated in a hurry. There's a reason Dutch is the only one on my ignore list. I've also gotten great at skimming over any reply where he is quoted too. I win.
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Off the topic, I used to pick the US soccer team in the PC game Fifa 98 RTWC and dominate with the players brought back from the reserves who are basically the ones with the names of the development team! But eventually I got to know players like Pope, Ramos, Wynalda, Agoos, Reyna, Lalas and the African-American that played forward. His name...... starts with "L". I will have to get back to you.




~ This guy:

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E.J. Wells said:
I stopped reading after the first couple of paragraphs. What a horribly written pile of ****.

Everyone has free will, and everyone has a choice. To say otherwise is foolish. That being said, some of us lack the willpower to make the correct choice. There is a difference.


Man, that blog post sucked.
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Another difference is the intelligence, or foresight, or experience, to know what the correct choice is from the get-go. More often than not, I would argue for most if not all of us, it is a crap shoot. Might be better or worse odds by individual, but we still make most decisions with a lack of some information. So what we think is the best choice at the time, isn't. And on top of that we fool ourselves into thinking that what we desire at the moment is equivalent to the best choice. We are great at self-deceit.
 
I wonder if Dutchjazzer makes it a point to go to the funerals of people he doesn't like so he can let the families know how bad the person they are mourning sucked?
 
Gameface said:
I wonder if Dutchjazzer makes it a point to go to the funerals of people he doesn't like so he can let the families know how bad the person they are mourning sucked?
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acutally i do, cant help it doe.
it is how my brain is wired. i need some anonmous meeeting for that ****.
know where i can go dude. i dont have freewill i just do that crap and feel bad for it
 
E.J. Wells said:
Everyone has free will, and everyone has a choice. To say otherwise is foolish. That being said, some of us lack the willpower to make the correct choice. There is a difference.
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Free will is a tricky concept. I have yet to hear of a definition that 1) is inaccessible to the computer on desk, and 2) can be shown to exist in some fashion.
 
I watched Charlie Wilson's War the other day and Mr. Hoffman was pretty ****ing good in it. Especially in this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ_4m2ocxhI
 
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