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Ocasio-Cortez wrong on several counts about unemployment

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a self-described democratic socialist and former organizer for Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidenti

www.politifact.com

Thank you for confirming that you were misrepresenting what she said when you claimed "She has a degree in economics and doesn't understand basic concepts like how the unemployment rate is calculated.", because there is nothing in that article about how unemployment is calculated.

I agree that it is hard to believe someone could be that intellectually low wattage but it is AOC we are talking about.

It's hard to believe this is an accurate description because this is you we are talking about.

She was referring to those who were apprehended while crossing the border fence illegally. She believed that was not a crime

What she said was that such people are typically not charged. Think about the difference between that and what you claimed for a moment.

 

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This dude fully makes my point for me. He can’t fathom someone just is willing to treat leftists like leftists treat everyone else.

That would imply you treat people with acceptance and respect, which you clearly do not.

 

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Thank you for confirming that you were misrepresenting what she said when you claimed "She has a degree in economics and doesn't understand basic concepts like how the unemployment rate is calculated.", because there is nothing in that article about how unemployment is calculated.

Bottom of the page: "In any case, the BLS does not use either of those factors in determining the official unemployment rate."

What she said was that such people are typically not charged.

No, that is not what she said and not what she was thinking. Her statement was in response to claiming that children are separated from their parents whenever an apprehension for any crime takes place, not just illegal border crossings. She thought she had a gotcha by saying that wasn't applicable here because there was no crime in crossing a border outside of a port of entry, they were seeking asylum. At least she was smart enough to see that she'd been embarrassed and had nowhere to go with that line of questioning.

 

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At least she was smart enough to see that she'd been embarrassed...

So... smarter than you.

Sorry, but you left it sitting there, I just had to pick it up.

 

[Safetydan]

Then you live in a bubble and have never asked anyone outside your bubble why they hate the Democratic Party. Not right wing idiots, but voters who have voted Democrat in their lives, but can’t stomach it now. And it’s people like AOC they’ll mention very first. Someone like Andrew Yang is a Democrat that tried to reach out. It’s really quite simple.

Nah dude, I'm talking about ****ing reality. I know exactly why people outside my "bubble" hate the Democratic party and IDGAF because they're buying into right-wing propaganda when they, Like yourself, spout talking points straight from The Daily Wire. I hate the democratic party too bro, but, at least, I have a solid grasp as to why.

The post above is a fantastic example of the brain rot that afflicts this country. When right-wing propagandists have their hooks so deeply into you that you think that the Left is simultaneously to blame for

1. Pushing culture-war ******** to the forefront of media discourse
2. The party faction responsible for not getting things done for working-class Americans.

In the video you posted, Andrew Yang is talking about the real reason that Democrats aren't more loved is that you can't point to a single substantive thing they've done to improve the lives of the average working-class American. He's ****ing right. However, It blows my mind that you think this is somehow the left's fault when fighting for the real material improvement of the conditions of the working class is their primary goal. That's what they're trying to do.

You've fundamentally misread what is the left is striving for. You're over here with AY asking why the democrat party hasn't done anything and you buy into the right-wing propaganda, hook, line and sinker. Leftism is actually vilified because they threaten the power structures that exist today. Find me an actual leftist media person that strongly advocates for something like the decommodification of housing or other radical ideas that has the financial backing of billionaire money.

As is implicated by your post, if you actually want what Andrew Yang wants, you should be pushing for leftism.

 

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With all due respect, you should take some time to learn about guns. It would make your gun control arguments stronger to use correct terms. There is no evidence that anyone there that night had automatic weapons and Rittenhouse for sure did not.

My bad, I intended to say assault style not automatic, but was working within a time constraint here at the High School where I teach. Not a gun control argument by me so your comment in that regard is a straw man.

 

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Very good summary of the verdict

 

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My bad, I intended to say assault style not automatic, but was working within a time constraint here at the High School where I teach. Not a gun control argument by me so your comment in that regard is a straw man.

It wasn't meant to straw man your argument. I was merely addressing the term you used in your preamble to motivate you to put requisite time into forming what you want to say. If you say the constraints of your teaching job don't allow for it then I'll take you at your word. I am happy that you do seem to know the distinction between an assault style and automatic weapon. Kudos.

 

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Bottom of the page: "In any case, the BLS does not use either of those factors in determining the official unemployment rate."

Nor was AOC commenting on how the unemployment rate was being calculated.

No, that is not what she said and not what she was thinking. Her statement was in response to claiming that children are separated from their parents whenever an apprehension for any crime takes place, not just illegal border crossings. She thought she had a gotcha by saying that wasn't applicable here because there was no crime in crossing a border outside of a port of entry, they were seeking asylum.

Except, that's not what she actually said. Listen again to your own video. Feel free to find the part where she said it wasn't a crime.

Perhaps you feel you now have mind-reading powers (certainly, this is not the first time you've claimed to know what a person is thinking, as opposed to what you see or hear), and can say therefore that 1) Ocasio-Cortez meant to say there was no crime instead of people not being charged, and 2) that her thoughts were clearly wrong, even though 3) what she actually said was true. I disbelieve your have mind-reading abilities.

At least she was smart enough to see that she'd been embarrassed and had nowhere to go with that line of questioning.

More mind-reading? Perhaps she saw Homan was simply unresponsive and was running out of time.

 

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I can't help but to think that a big reason why many on the right hate AOC is because she's so attractive. If she had been a 60 something overweight white dude with the same beliefs, I don't think we'd see near the vitriol. Just my opinion.

 

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Nor was AOC commenting on how the unemployment rate was being calculated.

AOC said the unemployment rate was low because of 2 factors. The fact checkers at Politifact said those 2 factors do not figure in to the unemployment rate. Either AOC didn't know, or she did know and was lying in an effort to misdirect. Either way, the words that came out of her face regarding the unemployment rate were wrong.

Except, that's not what she actually said. Listen again to your own video. Feel free to find the part where she said it wasn't a crime.

I'm aware of the exact words she used, but the argument you are making is predicate on AOC being too stupid to understand how to form a coherent argument. I guess I give her more credit than you do. Homan was talking about standard procedure at the time of apprehension for any crime. He never used the word "charged" either. Drunk drivers aren't separated from their kids when they are charged. They are separated when they are apprehended. The charge doesn't come until after the driver is in custody, breath or blood evidence has been processed, and the DA has decided to pursue charges. It works backwards in Grand Jury trials where a person is charged first, but again the person isn't separated from their kids until they are apprehended. The whole thing is about what happens when people are apprehended for breaking the law. AOC's argument only makes sense if she believes they weren't apprehended for breaking the law.

 

[gandalfe]

I can't help but to think that a big reason why many on the right hate AOC is because she's so attractive. If she had been a 60 something overweight white dude with the same beliefs, I don't think we'd see near the vitriol. Just my opinion.

That's certainly part of it. To be honest, her voice itself annoys me, so I just read what she says and cheer her on.