Roe v. Wade is going down
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Al-O-Meter
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No. Men aren't allowed to kill humans either. Your argument is no different from saying you own your own arm along with your own trigger finger and should have the freedom use your body to shoot a gun at someone else's head because it is your arm. In the case of shooting someone in the head and ending the life of fetus, it is the life on the other end of that exchange that matters. You do not have the right to use your body to hold a gun and shoot it at someone else's head. Women should also not have the right to premeditate a killing, find a professional to do it, and end a human life without consequences. Men already couldn't do those things. Banning abortion is ending a barbaric practice. There is something deeply wrong about a society willing to sacrifice a human life for no purpose other than petty convenience.
Al-O-Meter
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Not really. The constitution does not mention abortion which means that per the 10th Amendment the federal government does not have the power to have a say one way or the other. I predict that what would happen is that the Democrats will pass a law federally protecting the right to abortion. Then when they lose the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2024, the Republicans will repeal it and pass a nationwide ban on abortion. Then lawyers will immediately sue. It will go all the way to the Supreme Court where the federal ban will be struck down on 10th amendment grounds which will end both attempts to federally protect and federally ban abortion.
Al-O-Meter
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Nice try but about 0% of abortions are due to rape, incest, etc. Roe v. Wade is about giving all women the right to end life, not just victims of rape, incest, etc.
Al-O-Meter
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That is because it is immaterial in a discussion over what the federal government has the power to do.
The federal government has the power to protect our rights. Not just the ones they initially enumerated in the bill of rights.
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Want to end most/all unwanted pregnancies? Make all young men get vasectomies. They’re reversible, right? Make them all get vasectomies until they want children and can provide for them. Any takers? After all, I’m pro life too!
The Bill of Rights is just the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. The Ninth gives power to the states for powers not enumerated in the Constitution to the Federal Gov.
So they could pass a law, but it would be immediately challenged and stayed until the Sup. Ct. could review.
It may work, but based on the reasoning in the leaked ruling (no constitutional right to abortion), any new federal law that isn't an amendment would likely be found to be unconstitutional. Still, worth a try to see how it pans out.
I actually think the court's interpretation here is correct, as the right to privacy was made up by the court, and stretching that to abortion is a big stretch. There are enough people for it that I don't think a constitutional amendment is out of reach, but would still be very difficult (as any amendment to our core law should be).
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So if I kill a pregnant woman, how many murders do I get charged for? I will stick to the law, religion can be a great thing in peoples lives, keep your religion out of my life.
Would almost be humorous if there wasn't a significant audience for it. People are ****ing primitive.
Al-O-Meter
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Nearly everywhere in the United States, including super-lefty California, it is considered a double homicide to kill a pregnant woman.
link: https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
This has nothing to do with religion. I defy you to give me a scientific definition of life that does not count a fetus as life. Moreover, if you test the DNA of that fetus you will find that it is human. You will also find that little developing human is a distinct life from the mother. A fetus is human life and thankfully the law is now being made to match that obvious, provable fact. Do what you want with your own body so long as you aren't harming another, and if you do harm another then law enforcement should get involved.
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