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Roe v. Wade is going down

oneye said:
I don’t believe in God, but I’m certain he wouldn’t want you to kill his creation before it got a chance at life.
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Ah, you believe he would want his creation to suffer.
 
fishonjazz said:
You think going to heaven is evil? Weird logic.
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Like truly. Anyone with the basis of their argument as “poverty” or death….like what are you doing?…..Let’s just use your logic and say you’re a single impoverished mom, you’re living on food stamps, and you’re living below the poverty line. Let’s imagine you have a 1 and a half year old kid. You’re in the exact same situation as a woman in the same situation that’s 6,7,8 months pregnant. Why shouldn’t you be able to kill the kid? Your argument is that the kid will be brought up in less than desirable circumstance not whether it’s a life or not. So why can’t we by the same logic just kill the 1 and a half year old? They’ll be happier in heaven apparently.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ah, you believe he would want his creation to suffer.
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Apparently because since you clearly believe in God, he certainly is okay with a lot of suffering in the world. Bad circumstances are not a legitimate discussion as to murdering people. I’m for helping the kids after they’re born, not killing them because they might end up poor. Your argument, is a horrific one.
 
oneye said:
Apparently because since you clearly believe in God, he certainly is okay with a lot of suffering in the world.
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Wrong again. And the argument that you are putting into my mouth is one that im not making.
 
oneye said:
Like truly. Anyone with the basis of their argument as “poverty” or death….like what are you doing?…..Let’s just use your logic and say you’re a single impoverished mom, you’re living on food stamps, and you’re living below the poverty line. Let’s imagine you have a 1 and a half year old kid. You’re in the exact same situation as a woman in the same situation that’s 6,7,8 months pregnant. Why shouldn’t you be able to kill the kid? Your argument is that the kid will be brought up in less than desirable circumstance not whether it’s a life or not. So why can’t we by the same logic just kill the 1 and a half year old? They’ll be happier in heaven apparently.
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You are putting words into my mouth and making an argument that I never made. I simply said that if you gave an unborn fetus the choice of being born to parents that dont want it or going to heaven I think they would choose heaven. Doesn't make sense to think otherwise. Heaven is like the best option of all.
Im anti abortion and anti murdering already born children for the record.
 
fishonjazz said:
You are putting words into my mouth and making an argument that I never made. I simply said that if you gave an unborn fetus the choice of being born to parents that dont want it or going to heaven I think they would choose heaven. Doesn't make sense to think otherwise. Heaven is like the best option of all.
Im anti abortion and anti murdering already born children for the record.
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You actually said given the choice between being born to poverty or heaven via death before birth, they’d choose heaven via death before birth. Or at least that was your original post.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also, if we are going to make abortion illegal and force a woman to have a child then I think the man who impregnated the woman should not be allowed to abandon the child or should be force to support the child and mom financially. If they miss a payment or aren't there for the mother and child then maybe they have a forced vasectomy or spend some time in jail. Gotta take of those kids!
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The SC didn’t make abortion illegal. It reverted it back to state choice, as it should have been, because Roe V Wade didn’t have the legal standing to stay. The SC does not create law, they judge. If you want them to legislate, you’ve got your branches mixed up.
 
RandyForRubio said:
Yeah. You said a baby in womb would rather be killed than be born to a poor family. Really shows what you think of those in poverty.
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Incorrect. What I said is that I think that if you gave a fetus a choice of being in an awesome and amazing situation and place or a crappy situation and place then it would choose the awesome amazing option. i know i would. As for what I think of those in poverty, I feel bad for them. What do you think of them, are you super jealous?
 
fishonjazz said:
Wrong again. And the argument that you are putting into my mouth is one that im not making.
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It is. You’re making the argument they’d be better off never existing because you believe in a man made religion that comforts you there’s something better out there. Plenty of impoverished kids have made plenty out of themselves. The argument they shouldn’t exist because they might be born poor or in less than desirable circumstances is the most evil of any abortion argument.
 
RandyForRubio said:
You actually said given the choice between being born to poverty or heaven via death before birth, they’d choose heaven via death before birth. Or at least that was your original post.
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Actually here is my original post: I disagree. I bet if you could ask a fetus if they would rather be born to a mom and dad who dont want them, possibly kill their mom during childbirth, live in poverty, etc. or go to a perfect place where everything is awesome they would choose the good option.

Again, if given an awesome and amazing option or a crappy one I think the likely choice would be the awesome and amazing one. Agree to disagree I guess
 
fishonjazz said:
You are putting words into my mouth and making an argument that I never made. I simply said that if you gave an unborn fetus the choice of being born to parents that dont want it or going to heaven I think they would choose heaven. Doesn't make sense to think otherwise. Heaven is like the best option of all.
Im anti abortion and anti murdering already born children for the record.
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We all have the choice on a daily basis to go to heaven. Life gets extremely difficult, stressful and ****** sometimes. Most of us don’t kill ourselves, even those who believe heaven is so great. Most everyone chooses life. It’s why life threatening experiences are scary to people. People prefer life.
 
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