Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

[fishonjazz]

Is it? I'm not sure 0.6 blocks per game supports the notion that Lauri is a good rim protector.

True but he has to be better than niang or who the hell ever was our secondary rim protector with rudy. Plus, blocks doesn't equal rim protection necessarily. I could be wrong but I think I remember someone posting the defensive stats from this season and lauri was pretty good defensively around the rim. Plus he is 7 feet tall, moves well, and is very athletic. I would think Lauri could be a good secondary rim protector and that was an idea/point I hadn't thought of so I appreciated the post.

Edit: HH beat me by like half a second. SOB is quick with his posts.

 

[NUMBERICA]

there were some rim protection numbers out earlier in the year that showed opponents shot really poorly when he was in the area. It passes the eye test to me. So there is some data to it even if he has low block rates... it might be a little fluky but I think you could run him as a 5 or with another guy that can masquerade as a 5. One of the appeals for me in getting Taylor Hendricks would be to run 5 out and protect the rim with Lauri and Taylor for 10 minutes or so a night or more if matchup dictated it.

Oh, that is maybe the main reason I am high on Hendricks. A 4/5 of him and Lauri and you have a pretty lethal combination of attributes that get you more than 50% of the way to an effective all-switching defense and true 5-out offense.

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh, that is maybe the main reason I am high on Hendricks. A 4/5 of him and Lauri and you have a pretty lethal combination of attributes that get you more than 50% of the way to an effective all-switching defense and true 5-out offense.

This. Would love to see a 5 out offense next season.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Oh, that is maybe the main reason I am high on Hendricks. A 4/5 of him and Lauri and you have a pretty lethal combination of attributes that get you more than 50% of the way to an effective all-switching defense and true 5-out offense.

I also think you can run Taylor, Lauri and Walker together since Lauri and Taylor (maybe) have shown the ability to guard on the perimeter. You wall off the paint completely with those 3... I think offense might be a bit of an issue if you don't have some great creating/passing guards... but every team has some flaws.

 

[framer]

I think the biggest thing towards us treading water at the play-in line or firmly in the playoffs next year is if Dunn is actually what he looked like at the end of the season. If he is that, and the coaches probably know, roll back Clarkson and let's go. It is really, really rare for a rookie to make a difference. We got spoiled last year.

End of year Dunn as your worst case at PG is a pretty good position to be in.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I also think you can run Taylor, Lauri and Walker together since Lauri and Taylor (maybe) have shown the ability to guard on the perimeter. You wall off the paint completely with those 3... I think offense might be a bit of an issue if you don't have some great creating/passing guards... but every team has some flaws.

Yeah, when I play out different draft/offseason scenarios, it becomes pretty clear that the Jazz are gonna be in need of a dynamic playmaker in most scenarios. Sexton is fine but his size and PG chops are sub-optimal, I still don't know what the **** THT is or what's going on there, it's somewhat questionable as to the overall impact Clarkson makes but he's gonna be 31 next year and re-signing him in earnest is not my first choice, and who knows to what degree Dunn's performance was real or how long it lasts. Wallace or Black have their own shortcomings but I am definitely interested in investing in the position/skillset this offseason.

This is also why I'm high on Mintz. I think he's of a dying breed of guard that goes out there and whose 1st, 2nd, and 3rd objective is to set others up and always have the radar going on how to get the ball into the weak point of the defense. I think the compounding benefits of that style of play are getting lost in the hubbub of position-less basketball (kinda like giants that do giant stuff really well a la Kessler).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This brings me no joy... but... @KqWIN is right... we need to trade for Immanuel Quickley.

His on/off diff over his career is bonkers. He's been ranked like 35th, 3rd, and 21st. His numbers as a starter are bonkers. He likely can be extended this offseason for about 4/80M before his raw stats go crazy as a full-time starter. Knicks likely won't want to keep him as a backup forever and we can offer another pick they can use for their eventual star trade.

I would hope to get him for just one of our premium picks... but I'd also consider taking Fournier's 1 year left as well too. Hopefully would not require more than that... but if there is a little more we should consider it. IQ is the answer at pg.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

This brings me no joy... but... @KqWIN is right... we need to trade for Immanuel Quickley.

His on/off diff over his career is bonkers. He's been ranked like 35th, 3rd, and 21st. His numbers as a starter are bonkers. He likely can be extended this offseason for about 4/80M before his raw stats go crazy as a full-time starter. Knicks likely won't want to keep him as a backup forever and we can offer another pick they can use for their eventual star trade.

I would hope to get him for just one of our premium picks... but I'd also consider taking Fournier's 1 year left as well too. Hopefully would not require more than that... but if there is a little more we should consider it. IQ is the answer at pg.

I think IQ is just kind of an ok passer though, right?

He is efficient and defends well, but I'm not sure if he helps with our need for passing/play making.

 

[NUMBERICA]

This brings me no joy... but... @KqWIN is right... we need to trade for Immanuel Quickley.

His on/off diff over his career is bonkers. He's been ranked like 35th, 3rd, and 21st. His numbers as a starter are bonkers. He likely can be extended this offseason for about 4/80M before his raw stats go crazy as a full-time starter. Knicks likely won't want to keep him as a backup forever and we can offer another pick they can use for their eventual star trade.

I would hope to get him for just one of our premium picks... but I'd also consider taking Fournier's 1 year left as well too. Hopefully would not require more than that... but if there is a little more we should consider it. IQ is the answer at pg.

Well I also think there is value in punting on the capspace this offseason if the preferred candidates can't be had, so if taking on Fournier means sending less assets then great. Perfect, really.

 

[KqWIN]

This brings me no joy... but... @KqWIN is right... we need to trade for Immanuel Quickley.

His on/off diff over his career is bonkers. He's been ranked like 35th, 3rd, and 21st. His numbers as a starter are bonkers. He likely can be extended this offseason for about 4/80M before his raw stats go crazy as a full-time starter. Knicks likely won't want to keep him as a backup forever and we can offer another pick they can use for their eventual star trade.

I would hope to get him for just one of our premium picks... but I'd also consider taking Fournier's 1 year left as well too. Hopefully would not require more than that... but if there is a little more we should consider it. IQ is the answer at pg.

He's having a crappy playoff series, so maybe that lessens his momentum, but I still think he gets way more than 4/$80. If that's all the Knicks are offering I'm definitely tampering and telling his agent the Jazz would give him more. We're going to need Quickley to want out, but he has good reason to if he ever wants to be a starter.

Fournier + Quickley for Sexton is a good salary match. Sexton is liked by NYK and theoretically is a good cost controlled replacement for IQ. I don't know how many picks on top of that it would take, but I think we're getting an all star if we get it done.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think IQ is just kind of an ok passer though, right?

He is efficient and defends well, but I'm not sure if he helps with our need for passing/play making.

As a starter he averaged 5 assists and 1 turnover... its a 38 minute average number of minutes played so slightly goosed up... but I would expect 5-6 assists, but low turnover and good efficiency over medium/high volume. Solid defense as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a step forward playing under Hardy in a more featured role. We'd still have some needs for passing on the wing though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He's having a crappy playoff series, so maybe that lessens his momentum, but I still think he gets way more than 4/$80. If that's all the Knicks are offering I'm definitely tampering and telling his agent the Jazz would give him more. We're going to need Quickley to want out, but he has good reason to if he ever wants to be a starter.

Fournier + Quickley for Sexton is a good salary match. Sexton is liked by NYK and theoretically is a good cost controlled replacement for IQ. I don't know how many picks on top of that it would take, but I think we're getting an all star if we get it done.

Anywhere in the 80-100M range is fair... Since he is backing up Brunson I think its pretty easy to make the case he should get less... also hasn't established himself as a full-time starter yet. In general extensions a year early will favor the team... so I would think the scale would slide more towards the 80M number.

I think part of the motivation for them would be to clear the salary decks a bit but I wouldn't be opposed to putting Sexton in there. They could have cap space in 2024.. which was part of my thought process.