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I guess my point is, I'd rather them not disappear. We've already had the court of public opinion weigh in, and it made sure he wasn't elected to the senate.

But I'd really like a court of law to take a stab at this. I'm just afraid they can't, which would mean all of this would go away. I feel like there won't be a satisfying ending for either party.
Yeah, I think even if the statute of limitations hasn't expired, these allegations are so old it would be very hard to get a criminal conviction.
 
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Roy Moore won’t concede; says will wait on God to speak. God wasn’t registered to vote in AL but the ppl who voted did speak and it wasn’t close enough for recount. In elections everyone does NOT get a trophy. I know first hand but it’s best to exit with class.

5:17 AM - Dec 13, 2017
now the right will riot, blame the chinese, start a investigation and start a resist movement!

ooh wait that is what the fascist did when trump won
 
It's not just no class... the guy's completely going off

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ines-again-to-concede/?utm_term=.1d809f190678

“We are indeed in a struggle to preserve our republic, our civilization and our religion and to set free a suffering humanity,” Moore said. “Today, we no longer recognize the universal truth that God is the author of our life and liberty. Abortion, sodomy and materialism have taken the place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
 
I think we should move on to the Trump allegations. Franken's stepped down, The Moore situation is done. We've got a TON of red flags with donnie, some of them I believe are within the statute.
 
These allegations WERE a political attack. That's what they were about. That has nothing at all to do with their truth or validity.

If the women let it go and moved on with life, that's their own business. But seeing a child sexual abuser as the leading candidate for the US Senate and being motivated by that to come forward, that's not only understandable, but commendable.

It just makes me wonder how much of it is true.

Again, I believe that vast majority of claims. But it makes me wonder how much the %s change or if the even change at all.
 
It just makes me wonder how much of it is true.

Again, I believe that vast majority of claims. But it makes me wonder how much the %s change or if the even change at all.

What matters to me is that Roy Moore lied about the situation. Just like in court, if a witness lies about one thing it is reasonable to assume anything they say is a lie.

Roy Moore KNEW those women and he lied and said he didn't. I don't really care if only 1% of it is true. It no longer matters to me in regard to what I absolutely know about Roy Moore: he lies to his constituents about his conduct, he accuses his victims of dishonesty and deceit.

Case against Roy Moore is closed. He is a scumbag.
 
What matters to me is that Roy Moore lied about the situation. Just like in court, if a witness lies about one thing it is reasonable to assume anything they say is a lie.

Roy Moore KNEW those women and he lied and said he didn't. I don't really care if only 1% of it is true. It no longer matters to me in regard to what I absolutely know about Roy Moore: he lies to his constituents about his conduct, he accuses his victims of dishonesty and deceit.

Case against Roy Moore is closed. He is a scumbag.

I'm not trying to defend Moore. Glad he lost. Scumbag works for me.

I am talking in a general sense.
 
I'm not trying to defend Moore. Glad he lost. Scumbag works for me.

I am talking in a general sense.

Oh. Yeah, I think it's a valid question. And I think before people lose their livelihoods there needs to be a reasonable amount of substantiation to allegations. But once credible allegations of serious sexual misconduct are there I think it's fair for any organization to exclude the offender. Criminal convictions are on a whole other level.
 
At the end of the 2012 election Reince Piebrus ran an autopsy that suggested that the gop needed to do more to endear itself to women, younger people, and minorities.

Since 2012 the gop has done the exact opposite.

In every age bracket 64 years and younger, the gop lost in Alabama. Let me say that again, in one of the reddest states, every age bracket 64 years and younger went blue.

This is what happens when you deny basic scientific thought, statistics, and demographic information and rely solely on whatever the echo chamber on Fox News and am radio says.

The GOP is literally dying of old age. It’s end might come faster than we think because of Trump as he’s offending every decent conservative out there (people like Jeff Flake, who donated $100 dollars to Doug Jones).

Time for the gop to reboot. But they won’t. The echo chamber they’ve created with hannity, Limbaugh, bannon, and the Kochs won’t allow them to.

Pretty sure Mitt and Jeb are working on it.

Jeff Flake and other RINOs are tweedle-dee to the Dem Tweedle-dum. They don't really offer an alternative, just exist to follow the basic powers that be.

I used to think that the Dems offered a genuine voice for the people, say way back when.... say FDR or JFK. Carter was a nuclear engineer but just a figurehead for the status quo. But imo Bill Clinton was a Jay Rockefeller stooge. Since the Clintons rose to the limelight, the Dem party has been worse in the tank for the oligarchs than the Republicans ever were.

Roy Moore made too much of his fundamentalist bible beliefs for most people. He was not Jesus, but even Jesus would have lost the Senate race. Nobody really wants a senator voting on religious principle.

And yah, I don't smoke weed so I have no idea what reality looks like to the young'uns.

recent studies outta Palo Alto show that weed's effects are due to the cannabinoids mimicking some natural, as in stuff we make ourselves in our DNA-driven biochemistry, that directly affects the formation of new neuron connections, and while being somewhat pleasureable, it is likely going to curtail some brain functions prematurely. The younger you use it, the more it will affect you.

Nobody has proven anything about Roy Moore. Allegations are hearsay if second-hand. First hand, the judge or jury will listen to you but question your assertions against reasonable or logical relationships to whatever evidence is available.

The Gloria Allred client decided, on the advice of her attorney, to retract the assertion that Moore wrote some of the damning comments in her yearbook, after people asked for it to be produced for expert forensic analysis. The ink would have proven it was written literally this year. I think it was a deliberate falsehood cooked by political hacks, who must have done a bit of footwork trying to find anyone who had anything to say about Moore.

Some of you keep saying it's proven. It just isn't.

That is THE REALITY on the charges against Moore.
 
Pretty sure Mitt and Jeb are working on it.

Jeff Flake and other RINOs are tweedle-dee to the Dem Tweedle-dum. They don't really offer an alternative, just exist to follow the basic powers that be.

I used to think that the Dems offered a genuine voice for the people, say way back when.... say FDR or JFK. Carter was a nuclear engineer but just a figurehead for the status quo. But imo Bill Clinton was a Jay Rockefeller stooge. Since the Clintons rose to the limelight, the Dem party has been worse in the tank for the oligarchs than the Republicans ever were.

Roy Moore made too much of his fundamentalist bible beliefs for most people. He was not Jesus, but even Jesus would have lost the Senate race. Nobody really wants a senator voting on religious principle.

And yah, I don't smoke weed so I have no idea what reality looks like to the young'uns.

recent studies outta Palo Alto show that weed's effects are due to the cannabinoids mimicking some natural, as in stuff we make ourselves in our DNA-driven biochemistry, that directly affects the formation of new neuron connections, and while being somewhat pleasureable, it is likely going to curtail some brain functions prematurely. The younger you use it, the more it will affect you.

Nobody has proven anything about Roy Moore. Allegations are hearsay if second-hand. First hand, the judge or jury will listen to you but question your assertions against reasonable or logical relationships to whatever evidence is available.

The Gloria Allred client decided, on the advice of her attorney, to retract the assertion that Moore wrote some of the damning comments in her yearbook, after people asked for it to be produced for expert forensic analysis. The ink would have proven it was written literally this year. I think it was a deliberate falsehood cooked by political hacks, who must have done a bit of footwork trying to find anyone who had anything to say about Moore.

Some of you keep saying it's proven. It just isn't.

That is THE REALITY on the charges against Moore.

Link to the recent palo alto studies, pls.

And marijuana use amongst youth has been declining for a long time now from what I've read, I'll get a link for that if you want, but particularly in states where it has been legalized recreationally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-is-down-in-colorado/?utm_term=.57f3e455bd44

RINOs, you say that like it's an insult. How lock-step should a party be? How narrow should a major political ideology for a nation of over 300 million people be? Is Republican purity really the way forward for that party? Can such purity be accomplished in a honest way, or does it require individuals to conform to something and to pretend to believe it and be 100% loyal, even though they sometimes have different views?
 
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