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Rudy Gay ready to make his Jazz debut

Now that we know what we have in Gay, I’d love to see Snyder either slot he or Paschal in for some starting PF minutes when the match ups dictate a more physical presence. Love to see what we could do with Gay and Bogey on the floor together for example. Make our 3 pt % respectable again!
 
Ineptimusprime said:
Remind me again why we need Bojan more than a lower usage perimeter defender?
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I was just about to start a thread asking this same question. I don’t want to overreact to one game, but there are several reasons to think the ball movement and defense would be improved with Gay in the starting group. Without sacrificing any spacing.

I’ve advocated for moving Bojan to the bench before, so this isn’t a one-game overreaction as far as that goes.

Maybe we make this change on game1 of the playoffs?
 
NAOS said:
I was just about to start a thread asking this same question. I don’t want to overreact to one game, but there are several reasons to think the ball movement and defense would be improved with Gay in the starting group. Without sacrificing any spacing.

I’ve advocated for moving Bojan to the bench before, so this isn’t a one-game overreaction as far as that goes.

Maybe we make this change on game1 of the playoffs?
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I don't think Gay, at this point of his career, can play regular starter minutes. I do think he should be in the closing lineup in place of Bogey.
 
I would be happy with a 24/18/6 split at the big wing (formerly PF) spot, with the 24/18 part being either bogey or gay, riding the hot hand, matchups, etc, with gay closing most games but probably more on the 18 minute side, with the 6 being random among the other guys as needed. Would be a decent standard. Start bogey, close with gay, ride the hot hand in between. Biggest bang for our buck.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I would be happy with a 24/18/6 split at the big wing (formerly PF) spot, with the 24/18 part being either bogey or gay, riding the hot hand, matchups, etc, with gay closing most games but probably more on the 18 minute side, with the 6 being random among the other guys as needed. Would be a decent standard. Start bogey, close with gay, ride the hot hand in between. Biggest bang for our buck.
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This post confused me because I believe we have a couple guys shooting 24/18/6.
 
I don't think we rush to trade Bojan. With Rudy Gay the hydra simply grew a new head. I think he looked great last night... can tell he is a tad heavier than he probably wants to be and doesn't have his full legs yet. He was still really effective on both sides of the floor.

I wouldn't say trading Bogey is out of the question and I would certainly poke around but I feel like I wouldn't pull the trigger unless the deal was pretty favorable for us.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think we rush to trade Bojan. With Rudy Gay the hydra simply grew a new head. I think he looked great last night... can tell he is a tad heavier than he probably wants to be and doesn't have his full legs yet. He was still really effective on both sides of the floor.

I wouldn't say trading Bogey is out of the question and I would certainly poke around but I feel like I wouldn't pull the trigger unless the deal was pretty favorable for us.
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Even with Gay stepping into the fold, if we’re talking trades, then I still favor trading JC over Bogie.
 
Love the way he played last night. If he keeps playing that way it could be the renaissance that really prolongs his career. If that holds true, I do think it warrants more reason to make a move from Bogey/Clarkson. Bogey is definitely looking like the better player which I was unsure of to start the season.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think we rush to trade Bojan. With Rudy Gay the hydra simply grew a new head. I think he looked great last night... can tell he is a tad heavier than he probably wants to be and doesn't have his full legs yet. He was still really effective on both sides of the floor.

I wouldn't say trading Bogey is out of the question and I would certainly poke around but I feel like I wouldn't pull the trigger unless the deal was pretty favorable for us.
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I maybe overrate Bogey, but I feel like he is way underutilized here. He could make a great second scoring option for a team, he is on a reasonable contract, and he is always available. It feels like his trade value should be much higher than it probably actually is. He could be the piece that moves a team from ok to good.
 
NAOS said:
Even with Gay stepping into the fold, if we’re talking trades, then I still favor trading JC over Bogie.
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Probably the right move. If there is one more move like that it is really tricky. Still could use a 2/3 positional defender that can cover the point guards or shifty types.
 
infection said:
I’d be very curious with Bojan in a role off the bench where he was given the Clarkson green light.
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His light is already pretty green. I just think Bojan gets much more dangerous against bench units (more than if the average player switches from starters to bench units), and his defensive limitations are reduced.

I mean, Bojan’s game is going to age well.... so it’s just a matter of when he moves to a second unit.
 
I’m not in favor of treading Bogey. That just heaps more responsibility on Gay. We should be keeping things simple for him. He’s on the downside of his career. He helps to unlock our offense being as big as he is and able to hit shots consistently from time to time. Let’s not get carried away making him a focal point like Bogey is he’s not capable of it more than a game here and there. He’s a glue guy that can give Allstar performances from time to time.
 
NAOS said:
His light is already pretty green. I just think Bojan gets much more dangerous against bench units (more than if the average player switches from starters to bench units), and his defensive limitations are reduced.

I mean, Bojan’s game is going to age well.... so it’s just a matter of when he moves to a second unit.
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I just want him to play more like Kyle Korver and less like Scott Padgett. Eliminate the pump fakes, minimize putting it on the floor, and just let it fly.
 
infection said:
I just want him to play more like Kyle Korver and less like Scott Padgett. Eliminate the pump fakes, minimize putting it on the floor, and just let it fly.
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I’m betting Quin feels like that, too. Bogey just has a certain kind of force or rhythm that he has to play with a certain amount of the time, it seems.
 
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