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Rudy Gobert "Greatest Jazz Center of All Time" Countdown Thread

green said:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Maybe #1 in my pants, but my heart? That **** has to be earned. He ain't even top 10 yet.
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Oh? Who's got him beat for that 10th spot? Felton Spencer? Olden Polynice? Pete Chilcutt?

The only people you can argue have him surpassed is Eaton and Memo. Ostertag is probably #3 on the list because of longevity and we know he's passed him.
 
I think Rudy is already number one. Yes, Eaton was a great shot blocker but he didn't have anyway near the mobility of Rudy, and the game is faster now and more perimeter shooting so there are less opportunities for shot blocking now. Memo was more of a PF though he did play center.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I think Rudy is already number one. Yes, Eaton was a great shot blocker but he didn't have anyway near the mobility of Rudy, and the game is faster now and more perimeter shooting so there are less opportunities for shot blocking now. Memo was more of a PF though he did play center.
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Memo played almost all his minutes at the 5; he was a center. As for Eaton, yes, he did play in a different era. The game was more physical. The 3pt shot was less of a weapon when he played and more of a novelty.
I think we undervalue Eaton's impact. He changed the game as well. The Jazz' strategy was to funnel everything to the middle so Eaton could block or punish players trying to drive inside. Eaton was a better shot-blocker than Gobert.

However, in today's game, Gobert often switchers on screens. A few games ago he switched onto the PG a few times and held his own. He is light years ahead of Memo on defense, but Memo was light years ahead on offense. I'd rate him ahead of Eaton defensively, although it's close.

It's only longevity that puts him outside of those two - and any others - in terms of overall stats.
 
I believe if you took Eaton and played him in this era he would really struggle. He was not built to guard the game the way it is played today. But if you took Gobert and put him in the era Eaton played in he would also really struggle, he's not built to defend guys like Hakeem, Ewing and the low post big bodied centers that Eaton had to go up against. Eaton had to play these guys while also closing the paint to far more aggressive players coming at him. I think Gobert is the perfect type of guy at the center position in today's NBA. Athletic, tall and fairly fast on his feet, for a guy his size.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Memo played almost all his minutes at the 5; he was a center. As for Eaton, yes, he did play in a different era. The game was more physical. The 3pt shot was less of a weapon when he played and more of a novelty.
I think we undervalue Eaton's impact. He changed the game as well. The Jazz' strategy was to funnel everything to the middle so Eaton could block or punish players trying to drive inside. Eaton was a better shot-blocker than Gobert.

However, in today's game, Gobert often switchers on screens. A few games ago he switched onto the PG a few times and held his own. He is light years ahead of Memo on defense, but Memo was light years ahead on offense. I'd rate him ahead of Eaton defensively, although it's close.

It's only longevity that puts him outside of those two - and any others - in terms of overall stats.
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How many shots would Rudy blocks in Eaton's era where players didnt shoot as many shots away from teh basket? At least 5 a game I'd think.
 
So, I was going to say that players are a lot lighter today than in olden days...but it says that Jordan played at 195 lbs and Durant is listed at 240 lbs....

So, bag that argument.
 
green said:
So, I was going to say that players are a lot lighter today than in olden days...but it says that Jordan played at 195 lbs and Durant is listed at 240 lbs....

So, bag that argument.
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Not really the best guys to compare when Durant is like 5 or 6 inches taller than Jordan.
 
gregbroncs said:
I believe if you took Eaton and played him in this era he would really struggle. He was not built to guard the game the way it is played today. But if you took Gobert and put him in the era Eaton played in he would also really struggle, he's not built to defend guys like Hakeem, Ewing and the low post big bodied centers that Eaton had to go up against. Eaton had to play these guys while also closing the paint to far more aggressive players coming at him. I think Gobert is the perfect type of guy at the center position in today's NBA. Athletic, tall and fairly fast on his feet, for a guy his size.
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Geez. Shaq would've eaten Gobert alive. Lol
green said:
True, but Durant is so freaking skinny.
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Durant isn't the been pole he used to be when he came into the league. It just appears that way because of his length, and he plays a ton of pf as well. I think he's listed as a pf even though he starts at sf. Guys being lighter has more to do with 4's and 5's. They are definetly smaller then in the 80's and 90's. I will say, the bigger 5's seem to be making a comeback a bit
 
Yeah, that big *** was important in an NBA were you played one on one and there was less space, you needed the strength to bump your opponent out of the way. Now it's just not the same, you defend or attack space, speed is at a premium. A guy like Gobert would still be very useful because of how tall he is (length was always useful !) but he would get pushed around by the strong guys.
 
Jokic>>> Gobert now and for the future and its not even close. Other day on ESPN radio they were talking bout the influx of great young big guys and kept mentioning a top 5 from multiple sources and all had same 5 but not all in same order, Anyways here is the 5 they kept brining up
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Anthony Towns
KP
Embied
Jokic


Not one person mentioned Gobert but that's wrong right Jazz fanz? Gobert is easily better then every single one of them players.
 
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