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Rumor: Favors and Hayward for D'angello Russell and the #2 pick?

Would you trade Hayward and Favors for Russell and Ingram/Simmons?


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I can't believe how ittle faith some of you have in this core. INJURIES bros. Injuries. We're going to get Mike Conley, be healthy this year, and shock the world.

This is what I'm talking about!

Where have all the actual Jazz Fans gone?
 
I can't believe how ittle faith some of you have in this core. INJURIES bros. Injuries. We're going to get Mike Conley, be healthy this year, and shock the world.

I can't believe how little faith u have in our future star in Exum. I lol in yo face with lots of spit hitting the inside of yo mouth. Ha!
 
I can't believe how little faith u have in our future star in Exum. I lol in yo face with lots of spit hitting the inside of yo mouth. Ha!

I love Exum. If Conley doesn't sign here, it still won't change our destiny to shock the world, my brotha.
 
How soon will Ingram get us a championship?

If that is an unanswerable question I'm out.

Tell me how you answer the following questions:


1.) Is a superstar (top 10 player) needed to win a championship?
2.) Does anyone on the Jazz have top 10 player potential?
3.) Will Durant, Lebron, Kawhi,Curry, George, ever walk through the door?
 
Tell me how you answer the following questions:


1.) Is a superstar (top 10 player) needed to win a championship?
2.) Does anyone on the Jazz have top 10 player potential?
3.) Will Durant, Lebron, Kawhi,Curry, George, ever walk through the door?
No
Yes but it's not likely
No
 
No
Yes but it's not likely
No

1. Ok you're wrong, I'll explain why. It's not that a team of 5 Hayward level players wouldn't be contenders, it's the salary cap simply will never allow it. Just when the core hits their primes (27+), one or two would be lost to rival teams maxing them. We will see this in a year when Hayward is offered 30+. At this point you're screwed, because you're probably still over the cap or near it, and have no ways to improve. Thus, a treadmill is born. You need that max superstar who actually out earns his contract, it's a huge advantage.

2. As a GM having to make a hard call on that though, the answer would be no.

3. correct
 
This trade does not guarantee anything for either team.
Durant and Westbrook are the #3 and #4 players in the world and they still got beat.
Will Lakers be better with this trade and Durant?
 
I might trade Favors for #2, but I wouldn't swap Hayward for D'Angelo Russell at this point. We can start Lyles and draft a credible 3rd big at #12 in this draft. If Hayward is going to move, a third team would have to get involved and give us another asset, like Boston with the #3 pick.

We'd draft Ingram at 2, probably Murray at 3, then either Korkmaz or a big like Deytona Davis or Thon Maker at 12.

Exum/Mack/Neto
Murray/Burks
Hood/Korkmaz
Lyles/Maker
Gobert/Maker/Withey

That gives us 5 or 6 players with potential to become top-20 players in a few years.
 
I see some of the rationale here. The Jazz, if healthy, appear to be on track to be a top 4 or 5 team in the west, and a top 7 team in the league. But we'd be expected to go out in the 2nd round unless something unusual happens. Basically, we're like the Atlanta Hawks, Toronto Raptors or Memphis Grizzlies. The defense and rebounding might be there, but to be a contender these days, you've got to have defense, rebounding, plus 2 30-pt scorers. Right now, the Jazz don't have even 1 30-pt scorer.

The Lakers would be doing this in the hopes of luring Russell Westbrook or a similar player as a FA. As it looks for them currently, they're going to be rebuilding for several years without making the playoffs.
 
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