Rumor: Favors and Hayward for D'angello Russell and the #2 pick?

[Gameface]

So by the time this rebuild of a rebuild starts to mature we probably lose all the other pieces like Gobert and Exum, so by the time this thing starts to work we'll have no support and no money and there will probably be some rookies and draft prospects that look really neat and we can jump on that.

Wake me up 20-30 years from now when we have a team ready to make the playoffs. Or is that even the goal?

 

[fishonjazz]

I probably do it.
We still need to hit that homerun.
Russell and ingram have a better chance of being homeruns than hayward or favors do. (Hayward and favors are triples)

Maybe russell and ingram won't be homeruns either but maybe they will be

 

[Jazz4ever]

So by the time this rebuild of a rebuild starts to mature we probably lose all the other pieces like Gobert and Exum, so by the time this thing starts to work we'll have no support and no money and there will probably be some rookies and draft prospects that look really neat and we can jump on that.

Wake me up 20-30 years from now when we have a team ready to make the playoffs. Or is that even the goal?

The goal is not just to make the playoffs. If it was DL would have traded future assets to get Teague at the deadline. The goal is to acquire a superstar through consolidation. It can be a Harden like Consolidation, or one for a high draft pick. Obviously DL would have to think the world of Ingram to do this, but he must consider everything.

 

[Gameface]

The goal is not just to make the playoffs. If it was DL would have traded future assets to get Teague at the deadline. The goal is to acquire a superstar through consolidation. It can be a Harden like Consolidation, or one for a high draft pick. Obviously DL would have to think the world of Ingram to do this, but he must consider everything.

How soon will Ingram get us a championship?

If that is an unanswerable question I'm out.

 

[Goodluckchuck]

So let me get this straight. Trade our two leaders for two unknowns? That's a huuuuge risk! I'm sorry, but Russle is no star. Never will be. I see him more of a 6th man than a star. And Ingram? A good shooter. Who is going to take time to build up his frame to NBA ready. People compare him to Durant are clueless. Body frame is about the only similarities. I wouldn't do it. I think it takes us longer to get to the playoffs with those two. But whatever, the sky is falling around here so do what you need to.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

I really like Russell but this last year was kind of telling. His maturity scares me, but he could has a chance to be pretty special.

I like Ingram... But I don't see him as KD lite or a sure fire all star. I do think this trade highlights the idea that maybe our window is not lining up with favs and hay... Maybe it would be better to view the championship core as Rudy, Exum, hood, lyles and whatever else we acquire.

Another thing this would do is free us up to get a free agent this offseason. We'd have more space and time for a guy like Fournier or Batum (sounds like he isn't going anywhere).

I think both teams would think pretty hard about it but can see good reasons why both teams say no.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I really like Russell but this last year was kind of telling. His maturity scares me, but he could has a chance to be pretty special.

I like Ingram... But I don't see him as KD lite or a sure fire all star. I do think this trade highlights the idea that maybe our window is not lining up with favs and hay... Maybe it would be better to view the championship core as Rudy, Exum, hood, lyles and whatever else we acquire.

Another thing this would do is free us up to get a free agent this offseason. We'd have more space and time for a guy like Fournier or Batum (sounds like he isn't going anywhere).

I think both teams would think pretty hard about it but can see good reasons why both teams say no.

Why would we want to sign FA with this trade? Might as well tank another year for Harry Giles if we getting Ingram.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Why would we want to sign FA with this trade? Might as well tank another year for Harry Giles if we getting Ingram.

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Because we'd have a **** ton of cap space and wouldnt be bad enough to tank that low. Those guys plus a good free agent may mean we don't take a two steps backward maybe only one.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Because we'd have a **** ton of cap space and wouldnt be bad enough to tank that low. Those guys plus a good free agent may mean we don't take a two steps backward maybe only one.

So we can get another 12-14th pick instead of a 3-8. We'd be awful if we did this trade, might as well embrace another year of tanking instead of screwing it up.


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[Gameface]

Yes, let's do this and endure another tank year.

Or, just as our team is ready to show what it can actually do let's, you know, let them have a ****ing shot!

We say we don't have a star but we don't know. Stars are made in the playoffs.

We want to trade for projects when we as a fan base have shown that we have no patience for such a thing. If these guys don't show themselves to be the next coming of MJ after two season (for many here they'll be calling them failures before their first NBA game) we'll want to cash them in on our next lottery ticket.

 

[tleikheen]

Utah Jazz farm team.....is what jazz are and will stay

 

[Miggs]

I can't believe how little faith some of you have in this core. INJURIES bros. Injuries. We're going to get Mike Conley, be healthy this year, and shock the world.