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Rumor: Favors and Hayward for D'angello Russell and the #2 pick?

Would you trade Hayward and Favors for Russell and Ingram/Simmons?


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Here is my two cents. I would vote No if the poll said just No, adding the never win a championship kind of voids the poll.

The only reason why any GM would make this trade is if they feel Favors recent back issues might be an issue in the future and Hayward will not re-sign with the Jazz because he wants to play for a contender or the Jazz don't want to pay him.

On talent alone, there is no way I do this trade. Russell is overrated in my opinion and plays the same position as Exum. I am not sold on Ingram as being a star, Simmons I like more but he isn't guaranteed either. However, I would rather go to Philly with this trade because I like Simmons better and they have other assets I would be interested in.

The biggest reason why I wouldn't do this trade is because I don't think the Jazz starting five is broken. It is our bench that needs to be strengthen. With a better bench and healthy roster the Jazz can compete with other teams. Making a deal like this could do more damage to the future than, trying to add talent through the draft and FA. Guys with potential have potential to bust too. The last factor is that I NEVER want to help the Lakers become better.
 
This makes more sense if the Jazz are calling this a failed team and starting over. I am almost 100% positive they are not there.

If they are there then after this trade is expect other dominos to fall like Burke, Ingles and Burks.
 
I agree that favors and hayward ate much better players currently. But when I factor in potential, and to a lesser extent salary, I think russell is close in value as an asset to them.

I also think hayward and favors are currently much better players than whoever the #2 pick is. But again, when I factor in potential things change a bit.
No way jose

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If we're going to set back the clock, I'd consider Favors to Boston for #3 and either Jae Crowder or Kelly Olynyk. I'd probably take Jamal Murray at #3, but would look at all the other guys.

Jamal Murray at #3?! Lmao lmao lmao

Favors for Crowder/Oly and Murray? Kill me now.
 
Jamal Murray at #3?! Lmao lmao lmao

Favors for Crowder/Oly and Murray? Kill me now.

Murray has All Star potential. Favors will probably never be an All Star and the Jazz mat decide they prefer starting Lyles. If the Jazz decide they cant max all their players, they'll move one of them. I assume you like Bender?

Last year people were LOL about the idea of moving Favors for Porzingis, another rumor. Now I bet the Knicks wouldn't make that deal.
 
Murray has All Star potential. Favors will probably never be an All Star and the Jazz mat decide they prefer starting Lyles. If the Jazz decide they cant max all their players, they'll move one of them. I assume you like Bender?

Last year people were LOL about the idea of moving Favors for Porzingis, another rumor. Now I bet the Knicks wouldn't make that deal.

Murray can't play defense. He may be an all-star (I doubt it), but if he's one of your leading guys, you won't go far. Bender >>>>>> Murray
 
Murray can't play defense. He may be an all-star (I doubt it), but if he's one of your leading guys, you won't go far. Bender >>>>>> Murray
They said the same thing bout Curry.

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I wouldn't do it. (Other than for salary room, maybe)

I don't see their two becoming better than our two.
 
I wonder if a non-all star player with at least 6 years of experience has ever been traded for a top 2 pick in the draft - at or before the draft. I can't imagine that ever happening outside of that top 2 pick having some major medical condition, drug problem, etc. when a team has a top 2 pick, they expect multiple time all star. of course, that doesn't always happen, but that is the expectation. this is why the Lakers would never do this - the Jazz would essentially be asking for something that has never happened, to happen twice (with Russell being as young as he is) in the same trade.
 
I still can't help but think about how the Dubs are constructed. Curry plays solid d. Thompson, Barnes, Green and Bogut are all above average or better. Iggy is above average. Livingston is solid and long. Ezeli is above average. I don't really know about Barbosa and Speights tbh but my point's made. I want guys who play noth ends. Hood is flawed but is getting better. Our other four starters are above average or better. Withey is solid off the bench. Mack is solid but blows offensively. Burks and Lyles suck defensively.

I guess I just want guys who are gonna play both ends.
 
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