SI:Conley the pick for breakout star of post all-star

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lots of Conley talk in the Zach Lowe pod... lineups... starting... interesting stuff with him and Chris Herring.

Zach suggested Mike may not be starting in the playoffs... last 25 games would be the tell... interesting.

 

[LogGrad98]

The FO and coaching staff have made it pretty clear he will be the starter. He himself said he would play off the bench if that helped the team. He did play off the bench. It did help the team. They moved him to the starting lineup anyway. Come hell or high water they will start Conley. I just hope the whole team figures out how to play with him as a starter because, as per the evidence so far...

No Conley >>> Conley off bench >> Conley starting

Shocking to me the team ignores the blatant evidence, sticks their fingers in their ears and are intent on la-la-la-ing their way out of the home court and likely out in the first round.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

The FO and coaching staff have made it pretty clear he will be the starter. He himself said he would play off the bench if that helped the team. He did play off the bench. It did help the team. They moved him to the starting lineup anyway. Come hell or high water they will start Conley. I just hope the whole team figures out how to play with him as a starter because, as per the evidence so far...

No Conley >>> Conley off bench >> Conley starting

Shocking to me the team ignores the blatant evidence, sticks their fingers in their ears and are intent on la-la-la-ing their way out of the home court and likely out in the first round.

The jazz have no shot at a championship unless Conley regains a semblances of last years form. So of course he will start and be given every opportunity to make it work.

this was one of the 0.1% times I was right, we shouldn’t have traded for Conley, but what’s done is done, and the jazz only choice is to start him. I’m not sure both Conley and Clarkson works with both playing together. That’s just my 0.1% opinion

 

[fishonjazz]

The jazz have no shot at a championship unless Conley regains a semblances of last years form.

Agree to disagree.
Our best lineup is Mitchell, Ingles, Royce, bogey, gobert (2nd best lineup in the NBA). Then you have mudiay and Clarkson off the bench.
I think those players give us a shot at a championship.

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[NAOS]

Agree to disagree.
Our best lineup is Mitchell, Ingles, Royce, bogey, gobert (2nd best lineup in the NBA). Then you have mudiay and Clarkson off the bench.
I think those players give us a shot at a championship.

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It doesn’t look he’s agreed to anything; do you agree?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The FO and coaching staff have made it pretty clear he will be the starter. He himself said he would play off the bench if that helped the team. He did play off the bench. It did help the team. They moved him to the starting lineup anyway. Come hell or high water they will start Conley. I just hope the whole team figures out how to play with him as a starter because, as per the evidence so far...

No Conley >>> Conley off bench >> Conley starting

Shocking to me the team ignores the blatant evidence, sticks their fingers in their ears and are intent on la-la-la-ing their way out of the home court and likely out in the first round.

We seem to stay the course... which is good... sometimes. You don't want to be swayed with every wave that you encounter... but sometimes you move the way the ocean takes you and deviate from your original course and you might find more success. I'm actually cool with them starting Conley for now but switch course if it doesn't show improvement in the next 10 games. This being flexible also applies to Brantley/Morgan getting playing time... I realize the plan was for those guys to stay out of the rotation or season in the G league all year... they have more potential to bring the things the bench needs than TB and Niang… so maybe just try it... nothing says you can't go back if it sucks.

 

[fishonjazz]

It doesn’t look he’s agreed to anything; do you agree?

Sure.
Though it seemed like he agreed to Conley being necessary for the jazz to have a chance at a championship. Which I disagree with. I await his response declaring whether he agrees to disagree with me as well.

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[NAOS]

Sure.
Though it seemed like he agreed to Conley being necessary for the jazz to have a chance at a championship. Which I disagree with. I await his response declaring whether he agrees to disagree with me as well.

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Cool. Glad you agree that it takes two to agree to something.

 

[fishonjazz]

Cool. Glad you agree that it takes two to agree to something.

I too am glad

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[carolinajazz]

Agree to disagree.
Our best lineup is Mitchell, Ingles, Royce, bogey, gobert (2nd best lineup in the NBA). I think those players give us a shot at a championship.

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Mitchell, Rubio, Favors, Bogey, Gobert.....With Ingles and Crowder coming off the bench along with Clarkson....would put us at the top of the heap for sure!

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

I agree with @fishonjazz that the Jazz could win the championship even if Conley never completely fits in, or if he is injured, or plays off the bench. Although I do believe that him not fitting in would be the worst of those scenarios. So I hope he finds a way to complement our best lineups.

But the additions of Bogey and Clarkson have been far more important, and are what actually give us a chance to beat the best teams in a 7-game series.

Gobert-Mitchell-Ingles-Bogey-______ + Clarkson off the bench = contender. Period.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The idea that Mike was going to make this a championship team was birthed before the clips were fully formed and before LeBron morphed into his former self. The thought that a really small playmaking guard is going to be what takes them down is kinda silly imo. The best version of this team includes Mike playing really well... just like it includes all the key players playing really well. This far for whatever reason it doesn’t seem to be working in a way that “the whole is better than the sum of its parts” ... it’s been kind of the opposite with Joe, Mike, and DM. Roll with it for 5-10 games but don’t be afraid to pivot.

And I might actually pivot and bring Joe off the bench... just in case we plan on moving Mike this summer. Not sure if bringing him off the bench hurts his trade value but the narrative always becomes “he was bad so they benched him” unless it’s Pop doing the benching. Next summer if we keep JC that 30 something million would be better served if we used it on a big wing and backup big. We can’t really get a ton of space but might be able to work an uneven trade, generate some trade exceptions or move him for other pieces...

Kinda sucks but if Mike starting isn’t the best alignment him being a spark plug off the bench could... but now we have JC filling that need... you can have two guys like that but there are some diminishing returns.

gonna be an interesting end of season and offseason.