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Soccer referee in coma after being punched by unhappy teenager player.

You act like an oversized 17 year old knows how big and strong they are. Like this kid had murder on his mind when in the heat of the moment during a competition he got called for a foul (or whatever they call it in soccer) and swung on the ref.
If he would have swung on the ref after the foul was called that would be one thing. He waited until the foul was called and waited until the ref was writing in his little book to record the foul and then punched him. And didn't punch him in the stomach, the sides, or anywhere else, but went for the head. At a moment where the ref couldn't even defend himself because he was using his hands to record a penalty.

I don't know if he had murder on his mind, but to me it's obvious he had the intent to hurt and waited for the moment where the ref was extremely vulnerable. And I don't think he should be charged with murder. To me manslaughter is the more appropriate charge, but he's getting charged with something that carries 5 years max in prison. I bet people who have grown weed in Utah have been sentenced to that.

What freaks me out more about this kid is the reason he punched the ref. The ref didn't attack him. The ref didn't insult his mother. The ref didn't even kick him out of the game. He gave him a yellow card, which isn't even all that uncommon or serious in a game of soccer. It would be like a high school basketball player going ballistic if a ref called a flagrant 1 on him. If something like that sets him off, yikes, he'd probably be likely to beat the crap out of a Burger King cashier who forgot to put pickles on his Whopper.
 
To me, the way society handles this murderer has an impact on society. It's not about the kid, it's about us and how we want to treat other people. I'm a firm believer that a society that treats anyone with cruelty becomes a society in which cruelty is acceptable. I don't subscribe to the notion that when criminals are cruel that in order to squash cruelty we must take brutal vengeance on the criminal. I just don't.

So this kid has committed his crime. He has been arrested. He is powerless against the rest of us. So now it's our choice. Who do we want to be?

We want to be Psychopath Free!
 
Personally, I don't necessarily have qualms about charging a juvenile as an adult, but I don't know anything about this particular situation to make a blanket judgement in this case

but, it is well-documented that teen-agers' brains are not as fully developed as adults' brains, and that one of the last parts to develop is the part that controls impulsive behavior - that is certainly not an excuse for what this young man did, but is something that should be taken into account and is part of the reason the juvenile system exists at all​

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Although teens' brains are superior in some ways, they're distinctly immature in one key area. The last part of the brain to fully connect up—well past the teenage years—is the frontal lobe, which houses judgment, insight, dampening of emotions and impulse control. Since it isn't fully developed, there's a cognitive chasm between coming up with an idea and being able to decide if it's actually a good one...

https://www.childrenshospital.org/dream/summer08/the_teenage_brain.html

I couldn't agree more.

18 is an arbitrary # for considering someone an adult. The brain is not fully formed until about 26. (So if you do pot during this time you seriously damage your ability to control your impulses) You can see this "cognitive chasm" in older individuals who admit to being potheads when they were younger.

Don't let your teen know that his/her brain is "superior" in some ways.
 
18 is an arbitrary age for adulthood. That kid should have been able to shop as an adult, vote as an adult and sign contracts as an adult if we now want to try him as an adult.
 

You liberals are so soft. Kids can't fight anymore, can't draw a picture of a gun at school, should get thrown in jail for minor mischief, can't discipline kids...

Or it means he won't really have learned his lesson. Or it means he's already broken and will just spend more time on the streets being a threat to public safety than he otherwise would

Yup, that's the conservative way of doing things. Just throw them all in prison and let 'em rot. We don't have enough people in jail already, in fact, the P.I.C. is losing money because of it.

Well as someone who made mistakes as a juvenile I'm glad I was allowed to grow up and learn from them. But yeah, we should lock up as many kids as we can identify as non-conformant because they're probably no good.

If he would have warned the ref not to give him a foul or he'd punch him then it would have been okay. Didn't you read the thread? Making a mistake is only okay if you give verbal warning first. /sarc
 
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