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Tremendous Upside said:
Hendricks himself may not be doomed yet, but the fact that he's not even an NBA player at this point has probably stretched the rebuilding timeline by several years.

Let's not start rewriting history: he was supposed to be a guy who can contribute right away on a high level. He was NOT drafted as a project.
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Respectfully... nah.

We needed one of the rookies to pan out. I think Keyonte is doing as well as anyone could have expected. If we got two hits then you are ahead of schedule imo. You can whiff on a top ten pick and not have it cost years... similarly if he was playing average for a bench player for 10-15 minutes it doesn't really speed up the timeline. This isn't like Dante Exum and if it was we already got the George Hill (John Collins) to supplement the position while he figures it out.

I love that we got the only 19 year old in history that was drafted to be a win now player and not a project.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Respectfully... nah.

We needed one of the rookies to pan out. I think Keyonte is doing as well as anyone could have expected. If we got two hits then you are ahead of schedule imo. You can whiff on a top ten pick and not have it cost years... similarly if he was playing average for a bench player for 10-15 minutes it doesn't really speed up the timeline. This isn't like Dante Exum and if it was we already got the George Hill (John Collins) to supplement the position while he figures it out.

I love that we got the only 19 year old in history that was drafted to be a win now player and not a project.
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I may be mistaken, but werent you beating the drum the loudest about how NBA ready and how his skillset was a direct translation?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I may be mistaken, but werent you beating the drum the loudest about how NBA ready and how his skillset was a direct translation?
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I am sure I contributed to it. I still think if you asked him to do the Ochai from last season he could get on the court for 10-15 minutes and survive. I really didn't think he would come in and play 25-30 minutes a night and be some big positive. There are so few rookies that are... even at the top of the draft. I also think once a guy misses the whole summer league it impacts their rookie year fairly significantly. Unless they are on a pure tanking team and being gifted minutes it would be hard seeing guys with no summer league coming in and playing a role in the first 15-20 games of the year.

I just think the idea that he's ready now is not why the Jazz took him. I think they knew it was a project but maybe hoped for some utility. If they think he is NBA ready they don't go get Collins imo... if the biggest appeal is "he can play right away" why do that?

If he had come in healthy and done what he needed there was a path to playing time that was easy to see based on projected skillset. Its not there yet (we think anyway... its been literally like 10 minutes) but he's 19 so why all the hand wringing.
 
It would be really great if Taylor had a good game tonight.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If he had come in healthy and done what he needed there was a path to playing time that was easy to see based on projected skillset. Its not there yet (we think anyway... its been literally like 10 minutes) but he's 19 so why all the hand wringing.
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Maybe because it feels like the goalposts are low key moving for this rebuild project? This was supposed to be a quick, 1-2 year thing. Meanwhile, Hendricks is two years away from being two years away.

Keyonte has been a nice surprise, but let's not get carried away. All the advanced stats say he's been among the worst players on the team so far. He needs to start, but it'll be a long while before he's a guy who wins you games.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Maybe because it feels like the goalposts are low key moving for this rebuild project? This was supposed to be a quick, 1-2 year thing. Meanwhile, Hendricks is two years away from being two years away.

Keyonte has been a nice surprise, but let's not get carried away. All the advanced stats say he's been among the worst players on the team so far. He needs to start, but it'll be a long while before he's a guy who wins you games.
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It depends on when you first saw the goal posts. Last year after the Rudy Don trades no one would have said 1-2 years. After a promising year I thought we’d kind of tread water for a year or two unless we made a big trade… which is still on the table. Reality is setting in and it may be another 2-3 years before we are in the playoffs unless they step on the accelerator. If the lights click on with Hendricks it will help for sure but that alone isn’t going to make us a playoff team.
 
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