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I'm sure that was not intended to come off as judgy or victim-blaming, but it did. Made my skin crawl.
Yeah, I love you @bigb, but really does that matter?

I'll just say I've had a small issue with my ankle for the last couple weeks. Not even sure what is going on, but it's getting better (getting old sucks, btw). So it has affected my stride a bit, but I try to overcome that and not make it obvious that I'm in any pain. My hope is that no one notices that my ankle hurts a lot. But if I look normal that doesn't mean I'm not suffering.

To get a little extra personal. I loved my mom. I loved her. When I was in elementary school I had legit stomach problems sometimes, but after a few times staying home when my mom had her day off, we'd watch Price is Right, we'd do the grocery shopping, we'd chat maybe play uno or something, I started having extra stomach aches on days my mom didn't work. I loved her and respected her more than anyone else.

But as I grew up I started to realize that my mother wore her pain on her sleeve. She wanted everyone to know that she was suffering. I don't doubt that she was suffering. She was. But she had to dramatize it, so that we all knew it. She had surgeries on her feet, her spine, her hip (she started waitressing in her family's diner when she was an early teen, she was a Vietnam era Army vet, she waitressed for many of my early years before getting a job delivering mail for the USPS. Her body was broken down.). But I honestly started resenting the show. Started resenting the dependance on powerful opioids. Started to understand the ebb and flow of having more than enough opioids and not enough.

When my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer, a cancer she had originally been diagnosed with 20 years earlier and went through radiation treatment and was cleared, obviously it was devastating. I lost my father only a few years earlier to suicide. He didn't wear his suffering on his sleeve. I knew. I knew he was suffering. I was a few months away from getting out of the Navy and I was looking forward to having a new man to man relationship with my father. I knew he was alone. I so much wanted that opportunity for him to know me as the proud man I had become. But I didn't get that chance. He killed himself.

I blamed my mother, silently, but I did. She blamed me, also unspoken. We had been so close. My mother and I were both early risers. My father and my sister were not. I started drinking coffee when I was 13 years old, because that's what my mom did in the morning. I had to beg for the better part of a year. She finally told me I could drink coffee, but only if I didn't use any cream or sugar. She thought that would stop me from drinking coffee, but that's how she drank her coffee, so she didn't know, but that's how I wanted to drink my coffee anyway.

When my mother went into home hospice care she jumped into her deathbed enthusiastically, and never stopped asking for more opioids. She was on a ketamine pump and a morphine pump. They kept increasing the dosage until the doctor told us that her vessels couldn't take more pressure than the pumps were already introducing, so we started also giving her liquid oxycontin from a medicine dropper. Once she was there she never really came back. She lived for several months like that. Got very severe bed sores. Eventually the hospice nurse told us to stop feeding her, and more than a week later told us to stop giving her water. And then she died. And I resented her, and her weakness. Her years of broadcasting her pain. Putting that burden and that pain on the people around her, who cared about her.

But many years have passed. Now I wonder if it is really more noble to suffer silently. I don't know. But I'm not going to judge someone who is hiding a limp, nor a person who is emphasizing it.

So extra long story short. If a person has a handicap plate or hang tag, they get to park in the handicap space and I'm not going to worry about it.
 
I'm sure that was not intended to come off as judgy or victim-blaming, but it did. Made my skin crawl.

I probably could have worded that better. In the scenario that triggered my post, the 20 something year old man had a handicapped placard hanging in his car. Parked in a handicapped spot, walked into the store, bypassed the motorized carts and grabbed a push grocery cart to do his shopping. Absolutely nothing said “I need that handicapped spot”. It kind of came across as he was using someone else’s placard to take advantage of the close parking spot.

My question for jazzgal was based on the assumption that she uses a motorized shopping cart because of the excruciating pain she experiences.
 
Yeah, I love you @bigb, but really does that matter?

I'll just say I've had a small issue with my ankle for the last couple weeks. Not even sure what is going on, but it's getting better (getting old sucks, btw). So it has affected my stride a bit, but I try to overcome that and not make it obvious that I'm in any pain. My hope is that no one notices that my ankle hurts a lot. But if I look normal that doesn't mean I'm not suffering.

To get a little extra personal. I loved my mom. I loved her. When I was in elementary school I had legit stomach problems sometimes, but after a few times staying home when my mom had her day off, we'd watch Price is Right, we'd do the grocery shopping, we'd chat maybe play uno or something, I started having extra stomach aches on days my mom didn't work. I loved her and respected her more than anyone else.

But as I grew up I started to realize that my mother wore her pain on her sleeve. She wanted everyone to know that she was suffering. I don't doubt that she was suffering. She was. But she had to dramatize it, so that we all knew it. She had surgeries on her feet, her spine, her hip (she started waitressing in her family's diner when she was an early teen, she was a Vietnam era Army vet, she waitressed for many of my early years before getting a job delivering mail for the USPS. Her body was broken down.). But I honestly started resenting the show. Started resenting the dependance on powerful opioids. Started to understand the ebb and flow of having more than enough opioids and not enough.

When my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer, a cancer she had originally been diagnosed with 20 years earlier and went through radiation treatment and was cleared, obviously it was devastating. I lost my father only a few years earlier to suicide. He didn't wear his suffering on his sleeve. I knew. I knew he was suffering. I was a few months away from getting out of the Navy and I was looking forward to having a new man to man relationship with my father. I knew he was alone. I so much wanted that opportunity for him to know me as the proud man I had become. But I didn't get that chance. He killed himself.

I blamed my mother, silently, but I did. She blamed me, also unspoken. We had been so close. My mother and I were both early risers. My father and my sister were not. I started drinking coffee when I was 13 years old, because that's what my mom did in the morning. I had to beg for the better part of a year. She finally told me I could drink coffee, but only if I didn't use any cream or sugar. She thought that would stop me from drinking coffee, but that's how she drank her coffee, so she didn't know, but that's how I wanted to drink my coffee anyway.

When my mother went into home hospice care she jumped into her deathbed enthusiastically, and never stopped asking for more opioids. She was on a ketamine pump and a morphine pump. They kept increasing the dosage until the doctor told us that her vessels couldn't take more pressure than the pumps were already introducing, so we started also giving her liquid oxycontin from a medicine dropper. Once she was there she never really came back. She lived for several months like that. Got very severe bed sores. Eventually the hospice nurse told us to stop feeding her, and more than a week later told us to stop giving her water. And then she died. And I resented her, and her weakness. Her years of broadcasting her pain. Putting that burden and that pain on the people around her, who cared about her.

But many years have passed. Now I wonder if it is really more noble to suffer silently. I don't know. But I'm not going to judge someone who is hiding a limp, nor a person who is emphasizing it.

So extra long story short. If a person has a handicap plate or hang tag, they get to park in the handicap space and I'm not going to worry about it.

Interesting perspective.
My mom is also one of those people who likes people to know her pain. She has a handicap placard in her car. She legit needs it. She can’t walk and not be in pain. But when my dad is the only one in the car, he doesn’t use the placard or a handicap spot.
Like you, I’ve had constant pain in my feet for over three years. As soon as it starts to feel a little better, I try to do something extra, or I’ll spend an inordinate amount of time on a ladder, and the pain comes screaming back. Also like you, I try to not show it. But I don’t need a handicapped parking spot, so I don’t use one.
Maybe I’m way off base. Maybe I’m just a little too tired and bothered by something I shouldn’t be.
Or maybe I’ve been with my mom and grandma and haven’t been able to find a handicapped parking spot one too many times.
 
Yeah, I love you @bigb, but really does that matter?

I'll just say I've had a small issue with my ankle for the last couple weeks. Not even sure what is going on, but it's getting better (getting old sucks, btw). So it has affected my stride a bit, but I try to overcome that and not make it obvious that I'm in any pain. My hope is that no one notices that my ankle hurts a lot. But if I look normal that doesn't mean I'm not suffering.

To get a little extra personal. I loved my mom. I loved her. When I was in elementary school I had legit stomach problems sometimes, but after a few times staying home when my mom had her day off, we'd watch Price is Right, we'd do the grocery shopping, we'd chat maybe play uno or something, I started having extra stomach aches on days my mom didn't work. I loved her and respected her more than anyone else.

But as I grew up I started to realize that my mother wore her pain on her sleeve. She wanted everyone to know that she was suffering. I don't doubt that she was suffering. She was. But she had to dramatize it, so that we all knew it. She had surgeries on her feet, her spine, her hip (she started waitressing in her family's diner when she was an early teen, she was a Vietnam era Army vet, she waitressed for many of my early years before getting a job delivering mail for the USPS. Her body was broken down.). But I honestly started resenting the show. Started resenting the dependance on powerful opioids. Started to understand the ebb and flow of having more than enough opioids and not enough.

When my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer, a cancer she had originally been diagnosed with 20 years earlier and went through radiation treatment and was cleared, obviously it was devastating. I lost my father only a few years earlier to suicide. He didn't wear his suffering on his sleeve. I knew. I knew he was suffering. I was a few months away from getting out of the Navy and I was looking forward to having a new man to man relationship with my father. I knew he was alone. I so much wanted that opportunity for him to know me as the proud man I had become. But I didn't get that chance. He killed himself.

I blamed my mother, silently, but I did. She blamed me, also unspoken. We had been so close. My mother and I were both early risers. My father and my sister were not. I started drinking coffee when I was 13 years old, because that's what my mom did in the morning. I had to beg for the better part of a year. She finally told me I could drink coffee, but only if I didn't use any cream or sugar. She thought that would stop me from drinking coffee, but that's how she drank her coffee, so she didn't know, but that's how I wanted to drink my coffee anyway.

When my mother went into home hospice care she jumped into her deathbed enthusiastically, and never stopped asking for more opioids. She was on a ketamine pump and a morphine pump. They kept increasing the dosage until the doctor told us that her vessels couldn't take more pressure than the pumps were already introducing, so we started also giving her liquid oxycontin from a medicine dropper. Once she was there she never really came back. She lived for several months like that. Got very severe bed sores. Eventually the hospice nurse told us to stop feeding her, and more than a week later told us to stop giving her water. And then she died. And I resented her, and her weakness. Her years of broadcasting her pain. Putting that burden and that pain on the people around her, who cared about her.

But many years have passed. Now I wonder if it is really more noble to suffer silently. I don't know. But I'm not going to judge someone who is hiding a limp, nor a person who is emphasizing it.

So extra long story short. If a person has a handicap plate or hang tag, they get to park in the handicap space and I'm not going to worry about it.

Thank you for sharing this, BP.

Your mom sounds a lot like my mom. I don't talk to her anymore because she's too far gone. She had many surgeries and health problems over her life as well as an additive personality. She took opioids, morphine, any and all the pain relievers she could get her doc to write prescriptions for for decades.

It made her depressed, dramatic, a hypochondriac, and she slowly turned into a hermit and wanted nothing more than to stay in her bedroom and take her meds. It eventually costed her her marriage to my step dad who's a wonderful guy.

She's lost her mind now. My mom has always been a lil crazy, but she's gone now. I can't talk to her. She hit me up for the first time in over a year about a month ago and lied to me, played the victim and asked me for money. I told her no and she stopped texting.

The thing I've learned is chronic pain can definitely mess with your psyche. I've struggled with it for a while now and at times, I get depressed, feel hopeless and don't enjoy living (I'm not suicidal at all, I just don't like living this way.) The difference is, I don't take pain meds and won't take them for pain management. Those things change you and make you exactly like your and my mom. I can imagine if my mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer, it would make her happy because she would get attention and loves nothing more than to lay in bed and take meds. It's a terribly sad and pathetic thought.

The thing is, I don't hate her, resent her, blame her. She's done some pretty nasty things to me in my life and she's also had her moments of being a great mom or doing the best she could. The thing that helps me is knowing that she's mentally ill. If she wasn't, I'd imagine I'd judge her and resent her more. That probably sounds weird, but it's the truth. I can't blame someone who's gone like that.
 
Not that I nor anyone else owes you an explanation of how illnesses are managed, but I don't use motorized carts because I'm stubborn and fight every single day not to give up more of my life than I already have (which is why I didn't get a disabled plate as soon as I should have). I hate being sick, and I hate looking sick. I use a cart as a walker (usually I pick one up in the parking lot). Most of the time I use grocery pickup at WalMart to do my shopping for me, or have someone else pick up things for me, but on occasion I have to go into a store. I spend as little time as possible there.

Many of the younger people in my disease support group have people harass them about "not looking sick" or "being too young to be sick" when they use a disabled spot. My national association has cards printed up that you can hand to people explaining the illness. It's ridiculous that we have to justify ourselves to others who know nothing about us. We are a society that thinks we have the right to judge without information.

I'm sure there are people that take advantage, but I trust karma to take care of them. :cool:
 
On November 5, 2005, I woke up sick. I thought I had the flu or some virus. I never got better. But the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. Although my job tried to be supportive by changing my job duties and letting me work less hours, they forced me to quit a little over a year later. I moved in with my mom. After a year or so, I started working part time and increased to a full-time job, but my career as a legal secretary was over. I've had to take jobs for less than half my previous salary. I had to learn how to manage my illness (undetermined chronic autoimmune condition), but it changed everything about my life. I went through a period of depression and was suicidal for a brief time (I got help, fortunately). It is really hard to be sick when few people believe you are sick.

And then four years ago, I got even sicker. After another 1.5 years, I was diagnosed with a rare disease that has an average lifespan of 5-7 years after diagnosis because there are few treatments. And I was relieved because at least people would now believe me. That's just sad.

Anyway, I tend to believe that people who say they are sick really are. Even if they are hypochondriacs and the illness is more mental than physical, they are still sick. However, the medical profession does not understand so many illnesses and conditions that just because the doctor doesn't know what is wrong doesn't mean that there isn't something wrong.

So I feel sad for all of us that live our lives in illness and pain, or who have had to watch others go through it. Life is hard. Fortunately there are enough beautiful moments that make it worth sticking around. But I really need the Jazz to win a championship within the next few years.
 
Not that I nor anyone else owes you an explanation of how illnesses are managed, but I don't use motorized carts because I'm stubborn and fight every single day not to give up more of my life than I already have (which is why I didn't get a disabled plate as soon as I should have). I hate being sick, and I hate looking sick. I use a cart as a walker (usually I pick one up in the parking lot). Most of the time I use grocery pickup at WalMart to do my shopping for me, or have someone else pick up things for me, but on occasion I have to go into a store. I spend as little time as possible there.

Many of the younger people in my disease support group have people harass them about "not looking sick" or "being too young to be sick" when they use a disabled spot. My national association has cards printed up that you can hand to people explaining the illness. It's ridiculous that we have to justify ourselves to others who know nothing about us. We are a society that thinks we have the right to judge without information.

I'm sure there are people that take advantage, but I trust karma to take care of them. :cool:

Thank you for the explanation (even though didn’t owe it to me ;)).
Looks like I get spend more time and energy working on myself than I thought. That’s a good thing.
 
On November 5, 2005, I woke up sick. I thought I had the flu or some virus. I never got better. But the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. Although my job tried to be supportive by changing my job duties and letting me work less hours, they forced me to quit a little over a year later. I moved in with my mom. After a year or so, I started working part time and increased to a full-time job, but my career as a legal secretary was over. I've had to take jobs for less than half my previous salary. I had to learn how to manage my illness (undetermined chronic autoimmune condition), but it changed everything about my life. I went through a period of depression and was suicidal for a brief time (I got help, fortunately). It is really hard to be sick when few people believe you are sick.

And then four years ago, I got even sicker. After another 1.5 years, I was diagnosed with a rare disease that has an average lifespan of 5-7 years after diagnosis because there are few treatments. And I was relieved because at least people would now believe me. That's just sad.

Anyway, I tend to believe that people who say they are sick really are. Even if they are hypochondriacs and the illness is more mental than physical, they are still sick. However, the medical profession does not understand so many illnesses and conditions that just because the doctor doesn't know what is wrong doesn't mean that there isn't something wrong.

So I feel sad for all of us that live our lives in illness and pain, or who have had to watch others go through it. Life is hard. Fortunately there are enough beautiful moments that make it worth sticking around. But I really need the Jazz to win a championship within the next few years.
Sorry to hear that, JG. I knew you have been sick for a while but didn't realize it was that bad.

Sadly your first paragraph was essentially a spot on description of my wife. An undetermined chronic autoimmune condition. She went from being pretty healthy to being seriously ill rather quickly, and now can only work a few hours each day (work around the house, I mean, no way could she have an outside job). And she's had to deal with the depression and suicidal thoughts that go with that as well. And with people not believing her. She is still undiagnosed, and I understand completely about how it could be relieving to finally get a diagnosis even if it's a horrible one. Hugs.
 
Thank you for the explanation (even though didn’t owe it to me ;)).
Looks like I get spend more time and energy working on myself than I thought. That’s a good thing.
Sorry if I was a little hard on you. It's just a pet peeve of mine.

I don't really have a problem with this anyway. We are all free to think what we want about people. I do have a problem with the ones that feel it is their responsibility to comment on a complete stranger's behavior (unless it is harming someone else).

Now if that guy really was misusing it, I'm going to be annoyed that I went after you, sharing way too much of myself in the process. Good thing I'll never know.

I had a paraplegic friend, and I understand the difficulties of not being able to find parking. Too many places have one or two spots only, and with our aging baby boomer population, more is needed.

On a lighter note - I hate looking sick and don't always have a cane with me. Stupid pride. But sometimes I suddenly become very dizzy and need to take the arm of whomever I'm with. My mother is 81 years old and very healthy. It is our joke that she's supposed to look sick whenever I'm hanging on to her so I'll look like I'm helping her.

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