Summer League Conclusions

[Hantlers]

Also, lol at anybody saying Exum couldn't have played worse. I realize it's hyperbole, but c'mon people...

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this, but let me say a few additional things about Exum:

Does San Antonio rely on Tony Parker's shooting? No. And this was more true of the young Parker. His main contribution on offense (over alllll these years) is to get north-to-south really quickly; in the half-court, he is supposed to get by the perimeter defenders and then pass (he's brought the hockey assist to the NBA). In Tony's rookie season he played 29.4 minutes a game and attempted only 8.3 shots per game. In other words, he was given a limited role, and those limits were entirely determined by what he could do well. His role expanded from there.*

Snyder will do something similar with Dante. He should be able to penetrate and kick as well as play solid defense. He could score fewer than 10 points per game while shooting 40% and 30% and still have a successful rookie season.

BTW, Parker only attempted two free throws per game as a rookie. I think Dante could have an identical role and shoot something like 7.

All told, I hope Dante is given a short list of things to do. And that the list is determined by his strengths. I'm absolutely certain his shooting percentages will be poor this year, but I still think that he can contribute AND, ULTIMATELY, SCORE MORE POINTS THAN THE NUMBER OF SHOTS HE TAKES.





*Everything I just wrote reminds me so painfully of the hatchet job that Corbin & Co did in the evolution of Burks. ****.

Solid post. I'll add a couple thoughts. Parker's always had solid form on his shot. Exum's is shaky. Quite shaky. The flip/toss form without having his feet set real well is disconcerting. However, the flip/toss release action reminds me a bit of Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi is much more deliberate and set when he shoots but this leaves me hopeful. Additionally, Parker, as you mentioned, goes north/south so damn quickly in the half court offense. I haven't seen this from Exum. He goes around guys but not so much north/south. He goes more a wider angle, often from one side, not in the middle of the court or close to the middle, that is inline with the hoop. That said, for a guy who just turned 19, I'm nit-picking here and have patience and am hopeful that Exum's drive and foundation will be the determining factors in his high level of success.

 

[orangello]

*Everything I just wrote reminds me so painfully of the hatchet job that Corbin & Co did in the evolution of Burks. ****.

The more I see from these players during SL, the more hat the Corbin era. He honestly set this team back a few years and might have even prevented some players from reaching their full potential.

 

[stitches]

I think Exum's worst moments have been in 3d and 4th quarters, and his best moments have been in the first quarter. I think this is worth pointing out in light of his obviously bad conditioning and how it correlates to his level of performance. This is the easiest thing to work on and is fixable in a single pre-season training camp. His strength is another thing he needs to work on. In some moments he seemed like a kid among men trying to fight screens. His shot need serious work, as well as his left hand handle, but all those are fixable if he has the determination and will to excel and succeed(something we've heard he's actually exceptional at).

What worries me, though, is his lack of aggression. I think he was somewhat scared to get physical and he was hesitant to attack the rim. At first I thought it was unselfishness when instead of attacking he would just dish to a teammate, but in the last several games it looks more and more like he's actually avoiding the aggressive plays. I don't know if this is fixable or if he adds some strength to his frame would make him more comfortable attacking the rim and getting into the paint.

 

[Coach Ellis]

The more I see from these players during SL, the more hat the Corbin era. He honestly set this team back a few years and might have even prevented some players from reaching their full potential.

I think it's a clean slate for Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks, Burke and Gobert. He held them back for sure, but there's no reason they can't all embrace what Quin Snyder brings to the table and improve leaps and bounds moving forward.

 

[orangello]

I think it's a clean slate for Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks, Burke and Gobert. He held them back for sure, but there's no reason they can't all embrace what Quin Snyder brings to the table and improve leaps and bounds moving forward.

Will they grow by leaps and bounds? I certainly believe that. I still wonder if Corbin has permanently hurt some of these players. Only time will tell.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

People see the warts in Exum's game in this year's Las Vegas Summer League, but seem to forget how horrible Trey was in last year's Orlando Summer League yet it had almost no bearing on how he played in the regular season.

I disagree. Burke's inability to get to the FT line and poor shooting absolutely translated to the regular season.

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[LogGrad98]

To quote Homer Simpson, it's just a bunch of stuff that happened.

 

[jjscap]

I think Exum's worst moments have been in 3d and 4th quarters, and his best moments have been in the first quarter. I think this is worth pointing out in light of his obviously bad conditioning and how it correlates to his level of performance. This is the easiest thing to work on and is fixable in a single pre-season training camp. His strength is another thing he needs to work on. In some moments he seemed like a kid among men trying to fight screens. His shot need serious work, as well as his left hand handle, but all those are fixable if he has the determination and will to excel and succeed(something we've heard he's actually exceptional at).

What worries me, though, is his lack of aggression. I think he was somewhat scared to get physical and he was hesitant to attack the rim. At first I thought it was unselfishness when instead of attacking he would just dish to a teammate, but in the last several games it looks more and more like he's actually avoiding the aggressive plays. I don't know if this is fixable or if he adds some strength to his frame would make him more comfortable attacking the rim and getting into the paint.

Yes I totally agree with all. Though lack of aggression might be understandable and is probably instructed by the coaching staff. You're 18, not ready physically, new to the US and playing 3 games in 4 nights, taking on tough scrubs playing for jobs. I guess it makes sense not to be aggressive.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I have no worries about Exum. None. He'll get used to the Jazz's system, the players, pace of play and where he's going to get his shots. He'll put in the work, develop his body, get his reps in and shoot better. I like that he's able to compete physically with older players, he plays pretty good defense all things considered, and his ability to see and deliver open passes in the flow of the offense looks really promising. His confidence can only go way up.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I think Exum's worst moments have been in 3d and 4th quarters, and his best moments have been in the first quarter. I think this is worth pointing out in light of his obviously bad conditioning and how it correlates to his level of performance. This is the easiest thing to work on and is fixable in a single pre-season training camp. His strength is another thing he needs to work on. In some moments he seemed like a kid among men trying to fight screens. His shot need serious work, as well as his left hand handle, but all those are fixable if he has the determination and will to excel and succeed(something we've heard he's actually exceptional at).

What worries me, though, is his lack of aggression. I think he was somewhat scared to get physical and he was hesitant to attack the rim. At first I thought it was unselfishness when instead of attacking he would just dish to a teammate, but in the last several games it looks more and more like he's actually avoiding the aggressive plays. I don't know if this is fixable or if he adds some strength to his frame would make him more comfortable attacking the rim and getting into the paint.

This is the first post from you I've ever seen, but you've got 54 rep on only 15 posts in less than a month. if only our new rookies could perform like that!

 

[Stifle Tower]

This is the first post from you I've ever seen, but you've got 54 rep on only 15 posts in less than a month. if only our new rookies could perform like that!

Rep level is different than rep power. If only our veterans - after 4 years - actually understood the game!