The Candidacy of Ron DeSantis
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Oh so this is what the outrage in Florida is all about? Mayor Lightfoot teaching a course at Harvard? Seems like a weird thing for a school board and parents in Florida to be upset about. How many current students in Florida’s k-12 system will be impacted by Lightfoot’s course? How many in this district?
You don’t need to have any background in science, medicine or epidemiology to be an expert. See many people such as Andy Slavitt. Or vast swaths of writers and communicators who contribute to baseline understandings and beliefs.
Bucknutz
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It’s the definition of a left wing teacher. You asked it. It’s a teacher which has left leaning political views. It’s an easy question to answer. What’s a right wing teacher? I bet you would love to sit in a classroom that has MAGA flags on the wall, red hat sitting on the desk and a large photo of Christ on the door. Then not ask what is a right wing teacher.
It’s someone who preaches their political view from their side in a classroom. I hate DeSantis, I got in trouble because I showed a movie that a parent got upset about and reported. He is terrible and I’m going to quit. I want to do what I want. I don’t care about the rules. I’m the victim here.
Good news, she can get another job somewhere else. Good news that parent can take the scholarship and go to a private school that will not show that movie.
Fear porn. Fake narrative.
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LOL WUT?!
Your last two posts are a classic example of political brain worms. How does any of this relate to the article in question is beyond me.
Back onto the ignore list. I’ll check back later in a few weeks to see if you’re ready to discuss these issues like an adult.
Sidenote, you don’t always have to argue. You don’t always have to defend “your tribe.” You could just admit that what DeSantis and red states in general are freaking out about is a completely manufactured panic, Satanic Panic 2.0. And it’s a detriment to our teachers and students, especially those who are in marginalized communities.
You don’t have to defend this crap, right?
Al-O-Meter
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Bucknutz must sing in the choir or else! No differences of opinion are allowed!
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No ****tard, you guys don’t always have to defend this ****ing ****.
God it’s exhausting. It’s the same god damned ******** from you assholes. Porn in schools? Indoctrination? These are ridiculous claims. Don’t you have anything new? We’re two years now into the CRT and LGBT scare. It’s proven to be nonsense over and over and over again. Find something new than just copying and pasting nonsense from your extreme media outlets and social media personalities. Showing a Disney video in class? If it doesn’t support the curriculum and/or parents have concerns then that’s merely a conversation with administration, teacher, and possibly parents. It’s nothing to freak out over.
Especially if the reason is because the movie had a gay character and not that it wasn’t in accordance with curriculum. Cmon. Would a similar movie been fine if none of the characters had been gay? Gays exist
If educators could indoctrinate kids, you know what they’d do? Indoctrinate your kids to put the ****ing cellphones sway and turn in their homework.
It really is exhausting.
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Again, you’ve failed to provide any definition of what a “left wing” teacher is. It’s just a stand in word for, “something my tribe doesn’t like.” It’s the new “socialism.” Promoting political views? DeSantis’s own administration defines that as:
What does 'woke' mean? Gov. DeSantis officials answer during Andrew Warren trial
During the trial between Andrew Warren and Gov. Ron DeSantis, those within the governor's administration answered what "woke" meant to them. According to DeSantis' general counsel, it's the "belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."
Recognizing injustices and inequalities is now “left wing.”
Agsin, you guys don’t have to defend this ****. Call out your tribe for once. Use some critical thinking for a change.
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Al-O-Meter
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Because I don't care if someone is right wing or left wing. It is arbitrary. The same person could be considered right wing, left wing, or centrist depending on who is doing the judging. There may be extreme cases such as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who is registered with a political party of the left and was a teacher while he wore blackface, had sex with an underage student, and was forced to leave in the middle of the school year while his daddy's fixers cleaned up the mess. I think even you would agree that Justin Trudeau was a left wing teacher.
As for what is going on in Florida, there isn't any "scare". They passed some laws that are widely popular. Remember your love for democracy? Well, this is what democracy looks like. The thing you don't like is popular opinion. If you think the people of Florida got it wrong, then make a case. Simply assigning labels to people and demonizing or insulting them, putting people on block lists, or making mocking statements where you capitalize every other letter doesn't appeal to anyone, even those who agree with you.
Bucknutz
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Personal insults to start off the conversation.
I literally posted from books that were/are in our county schools. I’ve posted many times asking you if a certain book should be in schools, yet you won’t answer the question. These are not claims, it’s real.
Ironic.
Maybe it’s the state and the governor I’m defending from fake narratives. You try to make Florida out to be the worst state to live. Yet it’s thriving!
Tourism!
Economy!
Population growth!
Education!
Yes it’s thriving. 7th most diverse state in the country as well. 4th highest adult LGBTQ population in the nation. Weird, because @The Thriller told everyone Florida is Anti Gay and people of color should be scared to come here.
Just crazy how false reds and thrillers attacks are.
Red
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Since you don’t give a **** about the students described here, tell it to them. They count for nothing in your world. BTW, you keep saying “I try to make…”, but I’m not writing these pieces, and I can find many more where the Washington Post piece came from. I also know several teachers affected, in a couple of states outside Florida. I am also still friendly with former colleagues in academia and listen to their take, and their concerns. So you can pretend that this reactionary lurch is not happening in Florida, but I disagree. This latest reactionary anti-education, anti-intellectual, anti-knowledge(!!!) movement on the part of ignorant elements in our society reminds me of the era of the Scopes Monkey Trial. Really, we’re in another era of Scopes Monkey Trial-level lunacy….What’s the “don’t say gay law”? Show me a law that say this?
This is your fake narrative.
Again show me where educational books are being banned? Show me where black history is being removed. It’s all fear porn. You literally have no idea what’s going on here. None.
Yes some person complained about a Disney movie that was shown. I bet there would people who complain if there was a teacher who showed a Christ movie in school…
Ark. teacher suspended for showing religious film
A teacher was suspended accused of showing a highly controversial and religious film to his class at a local schoolwww.13newsnow.com
Or what about just Disney movies in general, not in Florida?
More fake narratives. Isolated incidents that you try to use to make it look bigger and scarier.
You tried to trash the Florida education system, yet you didn’t know that it’s thriving. You tried to post about a poem that was banned and it didn’t get banned. Now you’re trying to push a movie narrative. Keep trying because there is nothing there.
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But, anyway, tell it to these kids:
Bucknutz
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Emotional response. I would and will if I have the opportunity.
Great, we can disagree. What are their concerns? From public education teachers in Florida?
What exactly has been done in Florida to make it anti-education, anti-intellectual and anti-knowledge? Specifically, what is happening in schools here that have changed compared to let's say Virginia? What can't Florida students learn compared to Virginia?
What educational books have been removed? Specifically? Math books, science books, history books? They are all still here. The lessons are all still being taught. What exactly is hurting their future? What is hurting their education?State v. John Scopes ("The Monkey Trial"): An Account
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But, anyway, tell it to these kids:
Maybe the teachers and students should be focused on actual education:
Math:
"Compared to the 77 other education systems in PISA 2018, the U.S. average mathematics literacy score was lower than the average in 30 education systems, higher than the average in 39 education systems, and not measurably different from the average in 8 education systems."
- The U.S. average score (478) was lower than the OECD average score (489).
- Compared to the 36 other OECD members, the U.S. average in mathematics literacy was lower than the average in 24 education systems, higher than in 6, and not measurably different than in 6.
- On a scale of 0 to 1,000, average scores in mathematics literacy across the education systems ranged from 591 in B-S-J-Z (China) to 325 in the Dominican Republic.
"Compared to the 77 other education systems in PISA 2018, the U.S. average science literacy score was lower than the average in 11 education systems, higher than the average in 55 education systems, and not measurably different from the average in 11 education systems"
- The U.S. average score (502) was higher than the OECD average score (489).
- Compared to the 36 other OECD members, the U.S. average in science literacy was lower than the average in 6 education systems, higher than in 19, and not measurably different than in 11.
- On a scale of 0 to 1,000, average scores in science literacy across the education systems ranged from 590 points in B-S-J-Z (China) to 336 points in the Dominican Republic.
"Compared to the 76 other education systems in PISA 2018, the U.S. average reading literacy score was lower than the average in 8 education systems, higher than the average in 57 education systems, and not measurably different from the average in 11 education systems.
- The U.S. average score (505) was higher than the OECD average score (487).
- Compared to the 35 other OECD members, the U.S. average in reading literacy was lower than the average in 4 education systems, higher than in 21, and not measurably different than in 10.
- On a scale of 0 to 1,000, average scores in reading literacy across the education systems ranged from 555 in B-S-J-Z (China) to 340 in the Philippines."
Our education is putting our students almost out of the top 10 of competitiveness.
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U.S. Education Rankings Are Falling Behind the Rest of the World
The United States' education rankings are slipping. The country is losing out to China and other countries increasing their number of high-tech jobs.
Al-O-Meter
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Given The Thriller’s command that you adopt his opinion to prove you are worthy of dialog, and Red’s strong opinions which are clearly falsified by the statistical evidence you have repeatedly provided, I found this 5 minute video to succinctly describe their mindset.