Whole lot of ******** generalizations about people we know nothing about.
Whole lot of ******** generalizations about people we know nothing about.
well, when yah got nothing in your "cause" ya gotta go real fast to the littany of bully b*whipped whines.
actually, it is interesting to see some of the more thought-out arguments in here, like Sean's.
still doesn't make a persuasive argument to me for letting a marginal set of folks take over the political machinery and undefine an societal institution that has transcended governments of all kinds for thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of years, and hijack the commonly-understood meaning of it for short-term, highly self-centered personal gains.
If gays and other marginal sets of folks take this course, there will come a time, maybe ten or fifty years on in the future, where most folks will be ready to take back the politics and the language, and reaffirm proven institutions that actually do serve the needs of most folks, and especially the needs of kids. It is a mistake to vest government with the power to impose definitions and morals on society, principally because eventually that power will be turned and used against you.
You're missing my point. It's illegal to marry someone of the same gender (at least here in Utah). It's illegal for me to marry my sister. There certainly IS a comparison to be made. Your argument about homosexuality not being a crime is 100% beside the point.
Yeah, whatever.
That's not at all what I was comparing. But if you had actually tried to understand my point, you would have known that.
I find it interesting that the pro gay-marriage crowd wants to move the "red line" to suit their demands but has a "red line" of their own that they think should be drawn in the sand and never crossed because they find the behavior disgusting and deplorable.
Sandy Braille
Banned
"I find it silly" that you guys REALLY think a historic taboo as extreme as INCEST is in line with homosexuality.
Guess what guys? Most of America disagrees with you-- and thank God for it. Bring on the legislation change
BroBAMA!!
Guess what guys? Most of America disagrees with you-- and thank God for it. Bring on the legislation change
BroBAMA!!As recently as 25 years ago homosexuality was viewed in much the same light as incest. The media and progressives have done a masterful job of indoctrinating Americans, mostly the 30 and under crowd, into accepting homosexuality. Homosexuality was, and probably still is in certain states, illegal by proxy via anti-sodomy laws.
Also keep in mind that incest has had its acceptable moments throughout history. Especially among royals to keep their blood lines pure. Egypt, France & England all come to mind... I'm sure there are many more. Just because you find incest deplorable how dare you deny the right of family members to pursue happiness in whatever manner suits them?
Guess what guys? Most of America disagrees with you-- and thank God for it. Bring on the legislation change
I'm not sure most of Americans do disagree, they just feel bullied and don't dare speak out.
elites in all societies generally have lived above the fray so to speak, in regard to both law and morals. They do what they want if they can, and may consider it prudent to not advertise it. Nobody will prosecute them, either, for disregarding law.. . . generally, unless a pretext is needed by someone powerful enough to "challenge the Throne".
I disagree with the sentiment that "most Americans" "don't dare speak out". It's more like the gay agenda pushers have been vocal and most Americans just think it's nuts and don't care to make a fuss.
What the "pushers" should consider is the potential political backlash that may come when most folks realize how nuts things have gotten.
"I find it silly" that you guys REALLY think a historic taboo as extreme as INCEST is in line with homosexuality.
Guess what guys? Most of America disagrees with you-- and thank God for it. Bring on the legislation change
So in our world progress the following taboos are now seen as the norm for many people. (not a complete list)
Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, masturbation, abortion
What's next to be turned into the norm in the name of progress? (again, not a complete list)
incest, necrophilia, bestiality, infanticide, cannibalism, murder
So Sandy... who used to post here under another name. You think it strange to compare one taboo to another taboo and want to separate them by saying one is extreme and the other is not? Both of them have been extreme enough that throughout history people would be killed for either. Saying one is extreme and the other is not is dishonest and an attempt to put distance between them when there is not as much distance as you would like. Does cognitive dissonance mean anything to you?
Sandy Braille
Banned
Yup. masturbation and infanticide are on the same level. Freedom to fornication, mentioned in the Old Testament as something that perhaps wasn't too huge of a deal, is a definite slippery slope to incest
Sandy Braille
Banned
To this day, many countries still have loose incest rules. The references you are making to England and France and Egypt are largely something where the maximum amount of relation is just being cousins. Many religious scriptures allow for this.
However, the marriage of siblings, or parents with children has been much more than a folkway, or a more-- it has been an absolute taboo by the vast majority of society since the beginning of time, largely due to the adverse genetic defects that often results in the matings between very close relatives.
Cry me a river. This has got to be the most petty of political posts I have ever seen.
Sandy Braille
Banned
Keep fighting the fight guys!! Those blasted Liberals are everything that's wrong with modern society!! How DARE they guilt us into granting them marital rights! A man marrying a man is NO different than me killing a baby, or two siblings giving birth to 5 disabled children, or some dude in Norway going on a murderous rampage against tens of teenage students!!
America giving into the homosexuality movement is a slippery slope that will open the doors for freedom to murder and steal!
America giving into the homosexuality movement is a slippery slope that will open the doors for freedom to murder and steal!