The Honesty of Transgender Identity

[Darkwing Duck]

Wait, so I think I get it now. Transsexual is a person who underwent sex change, means for example male got his ********* and penis removed and fake vagina created by surgeon.. transgender just associates with other gender but may not alter his genitals to match his identity right? Still may have his male parts but dresses as woman and identifies as woman?

Many trans- terms have come in and out of style, especially from those that currently identify as transgender. As I currently understand it, transgender is the catch all for all the things you mentioned and any other term is generally considered insulting. I believe that's in popular use. From an academic standpoint, what you describe would probably be described as acceptable, if not somewhat outdated given popular use.

 

[Zombie]

I don't think I would be comfortable describing transgenderism into one simple description.

I would make the hypothesis that being transgender is in fact more of a choice than those who identify as transgender would lead others, and even themselves to believe.

I am also more comfortable stating that the main reason those that are transgender would be upset at that idea of choice is that it is used extremely pejoratively in popular use, which tries to have an effect of delegitimizing the individual. Religion was brought up earlier. One "chooses," in most cases, especially in western culture, to be religious, anti-religious, and everything in between, and that is accepted as being a defining characteristic of that person. The same courtesy generally isn't provided to transgenderism.

I guess to wrap back around to the original question, I think in individual cases, the answer to one or all three of your items could be yes. I do not and would not even begin to guess the percentages to the questions. If I could repurpose the question, "Are people transgender because of biological, neurological, or cultural reasons?" I would answer, "Yes. All three."

That's why there's no easy answer and why even with a spectrum, homosexuality (or any other unusual sexual attraction), as a cultural device, is so much easier to define and analyze.

I think that's a good way of looking at things. I think most people would characterize my atheism as a choice I made even though it's not really that simple. Like, I couldn't just on a whim decide to start believing in gods or whatever, not if I wanted to continue to be honest with myself. At the same time though it's not like I've got an atheism gene or anything, I had some level of agency in it.

 

[8]

Or is it a reflection of society? It seems to me they likely came about naturally and it is unlikely it was created by some oligarchy and then forced into society to change it.

Society is a giant construct in itself.
I’d agree that the social constructs and discriminatory policies are rooted from the ‘nature’ of people constantly wanting more regardless the effect on others, but, naturally, people with the most advantageous positions will shape these constructs and exploit groups they do not belong to. Also, it is certainly governmental in many instances. A big example is looking into the history of racism in America. One will discover rules and policies specifically designed to keep indigent people of different cultures and races from aligning for fear of upsetting the establishment. Howard Zinn wrote about that a lot.

 

[Archie Moses]

Alex Jones is a dangerous lunatic whose raison d'etre is harassing people in truly despicable ways. He should be in jail.

What has Jones done to deserve jail time, btw? I read a little more about him today and watched some YouTube videos. The guy is a nut for sure.

 

[Siro]

What has Jones done to deserve jail time, btw? I read a little more about him today and watched some YouTube videos. The guy is a nut for sure.

Do you ever watch John Oliver? He's got a funny episode about him.

 

[gandalfe]

So the meaning or use of a word cannot change? Tell that to my grandparents who were quite gay once upon time in the 20's, and life was good before the depression, when the queer happenings of the day caused much strife.

Reminds me of a Kids In The Hall sketch.

 

[babe]

cows (and bulls) aren't so queer as some of us.

uhhhmmmm…...Alex Jones has heard of phytoestrogens like BPA..... sorta like some greenies who worry about the measurement of the distance between the anus and genitalia.

We had a craze about baby formula some decades ago, turned out to be more powerfully estrogenic than normal levels of estrogens.

That's why we have a gay epidemic going on today, biochemically-speaking. The actual maleness of the species is measurably reduced.

The females are also affected by the extra estrogenic chemicals. Some say it is the reason for the breast cancer (estrogen +) epidemic. Means scientists know incidence is related to estrogen, so they administer anti-estrogenic stuff in treatment to prevent recurrence.

yah, Alex Jones saw a marketing op. John Birch Society lit and health nut stuff.
America has a long tradition with snake oil sales. As American as apple pie, as is humor.

Being Banned in Boston has always been worth millions in sales.

 

[babe]

Do you ever watch John Oliver? He's got a funny episode about him.

would be funnier if some people didn't worry about him telling the truth. AI is one of his big themes.... the globalist elite downsizing real humanity while upgrading themselves with high-tech "mortality cures" and seamlessly integrating AI into their decrepit brains Dunno, maybe it will help. Whaddya think?

I think it's a push between Jones and CNN.

 

[Siro]

would be funnier if some people didn't worry about him telling the truth. AI is one of his big themes.... the globalist elite downsizing real humanity while upgrading themselves with high-tech "mortality cures" and seamlessly integrating AI into their decrepit brains Dunno, maybe it will help. Whaddya think?

I think it's a push between Jones and CNN.

Ya harassing those poor parents of the dead children is the truth. stfu with that trash.

 

[Siro]

Hopefully all the law suits leave that piece of filth destitute. He already lost custody of his children. I hope he loses everything else.

 

[Archie Moses]

Hopefully all the law suits leaves that piece of filth destitute. He already lost custody of his children. I hope he loses everything else.

Funny. Right before I got on Jazzfanz I was reading about Sandy Hook and his law suit. It mentioned he had full custody of his kids, but now has joint custody of them. He didn't really lose custody.

 

[Archie Moses]

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