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FrenchJazzFa said:
I agree and disagree : Jaden is not awful in offense, just not consistent at all. Got some good games, some really bad. The fact of playing with 2 players who eat the ball does not help too. Rudy sems also regressing on offense as do Mike. As long as they don't trade Randle, they will have trouble. Jaden in defense is top player already. Hope Cody can follow the same path.
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Anyone can get hot, including McDaniels. Fact is that overall he can’t do anything with the ball and is inefficient on one of the easiest shot diets in the league. He’s a good defender but his offense is so tragic it brings into question if he’s even a starter level player at all. This year, he hasn’t performed at that level.

I’m hopeful Cody can clear that low bar…but then again he’s been struggling a ton to score in the GLeague.
 
KqWIN said:
Anyone can get hot, including McDaniels. Fact is that overall he can’t do anything with the ball and is inefficient on one of the easiest shot diets in the league. He’s a good defender but his offense is so tragic it brings into question if he’s even a starter level player at all. This year, he hasn’t performed at that level.

I’m hopeful Cody can clear that low bar…but then again he’s been struggling a ton to score in the GLeague.
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Looking at data, i can agree with you but as a follower of all Minny games, i think it's a bit more complex . Rudy, Mike, Jaden all struggle on offense, NAZ too..... i do not believe that all those players are slowing down. Maybe Mike as he is getting older but i'm not even sure ( he lead the team in steals....). It's hard to be efficient on offense when you waiting the ball for ages and when finally Randle or ANT get rid of it, they usually throw a bad pass which make the offense broke.

I'm not saying Jaden can be good on offense but i give him the benefit of doubt considering how Minny play right now with 2 guys sticky with the ball..I would like to see him without Randle and with a better passer.
For Cody, he is young and seems shy to shoot sometimes.... he got work to do for sure.
 
FrenchJazzFa said:
Looking at data, i can agree with you but as a follower of all Minny games, i think it's a bit more complex . Rudy, Mike, Jaden all struggle on offense, NAZ too..... i do not believe that all those players are slowing down. Maybe Mike as he is getting older but i'm not even sure ( he lead the team in steals....). It's hard to be efficient on offense when you waiting the ball for ages and when finally Randle or ANT get rid of it, they usually throw a bad pass which make the offense broke.

I'm not saying Jaden can be good on offense but i give him the benefit of doubt considering how Minny play right now with 2 guys sticky with the ball..I would like to see him without Randle and with a better passer.
For Cody, he is young and seems shy to shoot sometimes.... he got work to do for sure.
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He has the one of easiest roles to be efficient in. He only takes very easy shots and this year he can’t even make those ones. He's been more efficient in the past, but still, he was never a good offensive player because he has no ability to do anything else. TWolves might have some guys who dribble to much, but the biggest reason why Jaden doesn’t do much on offense is his own lack of ability. There’s been no indication ever that he could actually do more with a bigger role.
 
KqWIN said:
He has the one of easiest roles to be efficient in. He only takes very easy shots and this year he can’t even make those ones. He's been more efficient in the past, but still, he was never a good offensive player because he has no ability to do anything else. TWolves might have some guys who dribble to much, but the biggest reason why Jaden doesn’t do much on offense is his own lack of ability. There’s been no indication ever that he could actually do more with a bigger role.
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You may be right, time will tell. If it's the case, then Minny overpay him way too much and he will not be starter level.
 
FrenchJazzFa said:
You may be right, time will tell. If it's the case, then Minny overpay him way too much and he will not be starter level.
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I think he’s a fine player, just not that special. Closer to someone like Okoro than someone like Anunoby. I’m not even sure he’s better than NAW.

MIN was in a money crunch and I’m guessing that is what helped motivate a Towns trade. I think Jaden would have been the right guy to move to get some breathing room instead.
 
KqWIN said:
I think he’s a fine player, just not that special. Closer to someone like Okoro than someone like Anunoby. I’m not even sure he’s better than NAW.

MIN was in a money crunch and I’m guessing that is what helped motivate a Towns trade. I think Jaden would have been the right guy to move to get some breathing room instead.
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Agree on the fact that NAW is much better this year than him.
 
There's a special catharsis that any jazz fan from the last 6-7 years must feel whenever they watch a Dyson Daniels defensive highlight reel. I love that this guy is named after a vaccuum.

 
Part of why Cam dropped is people tripping and part of it is he looks more like a guy that needs to struggle and go to another team to figure it out. IMO.

Would be happy to be that team. His combination of attributes are quite rare and his catastrophic flaw seems to be correctable (I’m not saying he will become a point guard or anything).
 
Very interested to see what happens to Kuminga. He’s started to play extremely well, but that make it even more likely that he gets traded. I think they’re a team to watch for with Jimmy Butler.
 
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