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fishonjazz said:
I had no idea about all these siblings playing in the NBA. I'm actually quite shocked by how many there are

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I don't think it's that surprising. A lot of this is genetics at play and if one sibling worked out there is a decent shot the other one will at least be serviceable, and at the very very least be a decent athlete. Look at the similarities in the Manning brothers in the NFL.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I don't think it's that surprising. A lot of this is genetics at play and if one sibling worked out there is a decent shot the other one will at least be serviceable, and at the very very least be a decent athlete. Look at the similarities in the Manning brothers in the NFL.
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The scouts find something they think works in their prediction models they tend to do group think in these things. I read somewhere having a father who played in the NBA is best indicator for success.
 
whatthe said:
The scouts find something they think works in their prediction models they tend to do group think in these things. I read somewhere having a father who played in the NBA is best indicator for success.
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And it likely is, because it not only means you pass along good genes, but you can also most likely provide the kid with top of the line development, coaching, conditioning, etc. Things most kids don't necessarily get, even if they have potential.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I don't think it's that surprising. A lot of this is genetics at play and if one sibling worked out there is a decent shot the other one will at least be serviceable, and at the very very least be a decent athlete.
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There is a long, long LONG way from that to the NBA – without nepotism and family connections, that is.

For obvious reasons, identical twins are incredibly over-represented on the "brothers in the NBA" list. Just being a brother of an NBA player doesn't (or shouldn't) mean much, though. Getting to the NBA is incredibly difficult even if you're a great player and athlete.
 
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We’re still on this topic? lol. If you want to compare two random guys, yeah the one who has an NBA brother is more likely to be better than the one that does not. But when you’re comparing NBA level players versus NBA level players, I do not care about whose brother is the best player. This is the elite of the elite.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Being a brother means you come from the same system that developed a pro. That stuff matters.
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The system helps but isn't enough, not even close. You basically need to hit the genetic jackpot (athleticism, hand-eye coordination, BBIQ, depth and motion perception, mental acuity...) and the chances of that happening several times in the same family are microscopic. Obviously it does happen sometimes but betting on it in any way is asinine. That's how you end up drafting Cody Williams.

Having the "same genes" doesn't mean much unless you're identical with your sibling.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
The system helps but isn't enough, not even close. You basically need to hit the genetic jackpot (athleticism, hand-eye coordination, BBIQ, depth and motion perception, mental acuity...) and the chances of that happening several times in the same family are microscopic. Obviously it does happen sometimes but betting on it in any way is asinine. That's how you end up drafting Cody Williams.

Having the "same genes" doesn't mean much unless you're identical with your sibling.
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Cody would have been lottery pick with or without his last name.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
The system helps but isn't enough, not even close. You basically need to hit the genetic jackpot (athleticism, hand-eye coordination, BBIQ, depth and motion perception, mental acuity...) and the chances of that happening several times in the same family are microscopic. Obviously it does happen sometimes but betting on it in any way is asinine. That's how you end up drafting Cody Williams.

Having the "same genes" doesn't mean much unless you're identical with your sibling.
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You don't understand genetics very well do you? Hitting that genetic lottery is much more likely when they are pulling from the same gene pool than not. This is why you tend to see lots of relatives of professional players have relatives, even more distant relatives, who are also professional athletes, like NBA, MLB, NFL, etc. So and so has a cousin who is a professional baseball player or hockey player or whatever. Pulling random sets of genes from non-athlete gene pools are far less likely to generate elite genetics than pulling from the same or a related gene pool. Add into that aspect the fact that most families with elite athletes generally are more affluent and able to provide the key development needs of a budding pro athlete, and then the professional connections (the nepotism argument) as the icing on the cake, and it is a wonder we don't see more sports-dominating families, tbh.

 
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