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Zion gets called out for being out of shape by his old personal trainer and Shaq after losing in the tournament and goes out angry and gets 36 tonight on 13-17 shooting with 10-12 FT in a big win over Minny.
 
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str8line said:
Zion gets called out for being out of shape by his old personal trainer and Shaq after losing in the tournament and goes out angry and gets 36 tonight on 13-17 shooting with 10-12 FT in a big win over Minny.
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This was one of the worst game i have seen from Refs..... 40 FT to 20, putting fouls on KAT And Rudy very early in the game which limit them a lot. But i admit Zion look in better hsape tonight and play well.
 
Is it me or i have the felling that some teams start tanking really in the season? Seems that the course to be bad will be tough this year. At least SA play will all his guys. But they are terrible. Never seen a team playing so bad even with Wemby. If they count only on guys improving, it will be long before they become a centender. They have to buy at least 2 confirmed players if they want to be good in then next 2 or 3 years.
 
Please tell me why many teams are guarding Zion on the perimeter like he's Steph Curry? He's taken two 3pt shots in his last five games and made none. He's the ultimate non-shooting ballhandler.

It makes no sense. I'm not saying it's easy to stop Zion in any case, but please for the love of God... just sag off him when he catches it on the arc, sit on his left hand and see what happens. We all know he will go right for a couple of dribbles and then try a hard pivot back to his strong side so he can float up a lefty layup.

You're telling me that's too hard for an NBA team defense to anticipate?

Incidentally, this is exactly how LeBron destroyed Zion recently:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7A9pTTEp4
 
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Tremendous Upside said:
Please tell me why many teams are guarding Zion on the perimeter like he's Steph Curry? He's taken two 3pt shots in his last five games and made none. He's the ultimate non-shooting ballhandler.

It makes no sense. I'm not saying it's easy to stop Zion in any case, but please for the love of God... just sag off him when he catches it on the arc, sit on his left hand and see what happens. We all know he will go right for a couple of dribbles and then try a hard pivot back to his strong side so he can float up a lefty layup.

You're telling me that's too hard for an NBA team defense to anticipate?

Incidentally, this is exactly how LeBron destroyed Zion recently:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7A9pTTEp4
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Because if you let Zion dribble uncontested into the paint it's an and 1 waiting to happen.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Because if you let Zion dribble uncontested into the paint it's an and 1 waiting to happen.
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Plus giving Zion 2 step speed and taking a charge from him isnt something most NBA players are willing to do.

Lebron takes charges like a boss though, which is remarkable for his age.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Please tell me why many teams are guarding Zion on the perimeter like he's Steph Curry? He's taken two 3pt shots in his last five games and made none. He's the ultimate non-shooting ballhandler.

It makes no sense. I'm not saying it's easy to stop Zion in any case, but please for the love of God... just sag off him when he catches it on the arc, sit on his left hand and see what happens. We all know he will go right for a couple of dribbles and then try a hard pivot back to his strong side so he can float up a lefty layup.

You're telling me that's too hard for an NBA team defense to anticipate?

Incidentally, this is exactly how LeBron destroyed Zion recently:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7A9pTTEp4
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I wanna see you go out there and give Zion that space, and see what you do after he uses it to gather speed and comes charging towards you.
 
HermanG said:
I wanna see you go out there and give Zion that space, and see what you do after he uses it to gather speed and comes charging towards you.
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I would hope he uses that space to shoot the 3

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Because if you let Zion dribble uncontested into the paint it's an and 1 waiting to happen.
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Getting in his grill at the perimeter isn't stopping that. He has an amazing first step for his size and is wide as hell, so once he gets you on his hip, it's over.

Zion just hung 36 points on the Wolves, seemingly with nothing but lefty layups, because they kept guarding him tightly on the perimeter. He went by the first line of defense like it wasn't there.

The Lakers approach in the video I linked above is the only correct one. Sag WAY off, always go under, have another big up top show just enough so Zion can't get that head of steam. Collapse the interior when he does drive and force him to make tough kick out passes.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Getting in his grill at the perimeter isn't stopping that. He has an amazing first step for his size and is wide as hell, so once he gets you on his hip, it's over.

Zion just hung 36 points on the Wolves, seemingly with nothing but lefty layups, because they kept guarding him tightly on the perimeter. He went by the first line of defense like it wasn't there.

The Lakers approach in the video I linked above is the only correct one. Sag WAY off, always go under, have another big up top show just enough so Zion can't get that head of steam. Collapse the interior when he does drive and force him to make tough kick out passes.
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Yeah dude, Zion is a ****ing beast.
 
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