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Herro has been injured, but in the games he's played he's been awesome....might have been a missed opportunity there for us this summer.
 
Suns superteam is quietly stinking the joint. They have the 3rd worst record in the west for last 10 games (at 3-7, only Blazers 2-8 and Spurs 1-9 are worse) and are now tied with Golden State at the bubble.

Part of that is injuries, but here comes the real kicker...

They have played 15 games with both KD and Booker playing and are 8-7 in those games. Both KD and Booker have averaged over 35 minutes per game in those 15 games. That looks bad in itself but even worse when you look under the hood.

Wins:
Jazz x2 (both on the road), GSW x2 (home and road), Grizzlies (home), Blazers (home), Wizards (home) and Minny (home). So 6 of 8 wins coming against bottom 5 teams in West and 1 was against the Wizards. Minny was the only strong team they have beaten, and that was at home over a month ago. Also in December, that dynamic duo has only managed to beat Grizzlies and Wizards at home.

Losses are also mostly against meh or bad teams:
Spurs (home), Raptors (road), Nets (home), Knicks (home), Blazers (road), Kings (road), Lakers (road).
 
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HermanG said:
Suns superteam is quietly stinking the joint. They have the 3rd worst record in the west for last 10 games (at 3-7, only Blazers 2-8 and Spurs 1-9 are worse) and are now tied with Golden State at the bubble.

Part of that is injuries, but here comes the real kicker...

They have played 15 games with both KD and Booker playing and are 8-7 in those games. Both KD and Booker have averaged over 35 minutes per game in those 15 games. That looks bad in itself but even worse when you look under the hood.

Wins:
Jazz x2 (both on the road), GSW x2 (home and road), Grizzlies (home), Blazers (home), Wizards (home) and Minny (home). So 6 of 8 wins coming against bottom 5 teams in West and 1 was against the Wizards. Minny was the only strong team they have beaten, and that was at home over a month ago. Also in December, that dynamic duo has only managed to beat Grizzlies and Wizards at home.

Losses are also mostly against meh or bad teams:
Spurs (home), Raptors (road), Nets (home), Knicks (home), Blazers (road), Kings (road), Lakers (road).
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I just don't trust their big 3 to stay healthy. And their big 3 needs to be healthy and play a lot of minutes if they're going to avoid the play-ins.
 
MT Steve said:
I just don't trust their big 3 to stay healthy. And their big 3 needs to be healthy and play a lot of minutes if they're going to avoid the play-ins.
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Neither do I. Nor do I trust their skillsets being complementary enough.

The most successful big 3s have versatile stars who excel in different areas and at least 1 of them can dominate the paint. Suns instead have to depend on Nurkic for paint defense and rebounding, since their big 3 doesnt contain a Rodman, Shaq, Kareem, Duncan, Robinson, Parish or even Bosh, Draymond or Garnett type really.

The Suns entire big 3 are all basically 30/5/5 type guys, who need the ball to maximize their skillset.
 
hgb said:
What if they trade for Duncan Robinson and get two for one?
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He has upped his game this year tremendously. For instance his 3 pointers have gone from 32% at 4.6 attempts last season to 44% at 7.0 attempts this season.

I think @Handlogten's Heros was one of those who wanted us to "take his contract for compensation" last year and in hindsight that would have been a brilliant move.
 
HermanG said:
Suns superteam is quietly stinking the joint. They have the 3rd worst record in the west for last 10 games (at 3-7, only Blazers 2-8 and Spurs 1-9 are worse) and are now tied with Golden State at the bubble.

Part of that is injuries, but here comes the real kicker...

They have played 15 games with both KD and Booker playing and are 8-7 in those games. Both KD and Booker have averaged over 35 minutes per game in those 15 games. That looks bad in itself but even worse when you look under the hood.

Wins:
Jazz x2 (both on the road), GSW x2 (home and road), Grizzlies (home), Blazers (home), Wizards (home) and Minny (home). So 6 of 8 wins coming against bottom 5 teams in West and 1 was against the Wizards. Minny was the only strong team they have beaten, and that was at home over a month ago. Also in December, that dynamic duo has only managed to beat Grizzlies and Wizards at home.

Losses are also mostly against meh or bad teams:
Spurs (home), Raptors (road), Nets (home), Knicks (home), Blazers (road), Kings (road), Lakers (road).
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They had Dok playing 22 minutes last night. He did well though: 11pts on 5/5, 11rb/1bl/1st.
 
Udidthizz said:
They had Dok playing 22 minutes last night. He did well though: 11pts on 5/5, 11rb/1bl/1st.
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I actually didnt even see that game, but just noticed it was their first game this season without Nurkic.

They trailed all game (by 29 at worst), all starters were -14 to -25 and Sabonis posted a dominant statline while Fox had a decent but not dominant game..

So just one game sample size, but it perfectly supports my argument.
 
HermanG said:
He has upped his game this year tremendously. For instance his 3 pointers have gone from 32% at 4.6 attempts last season to 44% at 7.0 attempts this season.

I think @Handlogten's Heros was one of those who wanted us to "take his contract for compensation" last year and in hindsight that would have been a brilliant move.
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I did several times but I also don’t know that they were ever offering much to get off the deal. I thought they’d try and keep Strus which would send em to the mega tax.
 
Eric Gordon complaining about touches I. The media… brother what did you think you were signing up for?
 
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