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The Midnight said:
What if it kick starts a dynasty?

Remember the coin toss we lost that gave Golden States the pick that led to them getting Barnes that led to the start of their Chip that started the dynasty?

No, when the man/dog is down, you keep him/it down.
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Why you hating on furries?
 
HermanG said:
Well said.

Also the stats actually say this:
He took 440 three point shots in the season of which:
  • Only 4 (<1%) where very tightly contested (0-2 ft of separation)
  • 59 (13.4%) were tightly contensted (2-4 ft)
  • 199 (45.2%) were open (4-6 ft)
  • 170 (38.6%) were wide open (6+ ft)
So a total 83.8% of his shots were either open or wide open. People labeling him as a chucker are just complete frauds as basketball analysts. If you are the supposed the future lead guard who then doesnt take open shots the criticism would actually be more warranted.

His decission making on shooting is such a non-issue that its ridiculous to even talk about it. On passing he definitely had many moments where the decission making failed. But for shooting the only problem really was that he just didnt hit enough shots... but seeing he is a rookie who still needs a lot of work on his upper body strenght, its nothing we should worry about yet.

PS:
Dont ask where 8 shots have disappeared from his total of 440 (which is why the percentages or splits dont add up).... but those numbers are taken from NBA.com stats.
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Eh...not necessarily saying Key is a chucker, but the reason why he shoots so many "open" shots is because shots around the basket are way more likely to be "contested" by these definitions and the reverse is true for 3/long jumper being "open". This is moreso a reflection of his shot distribution rather than shot quality/decision making.

Regardless, I think "chucker" is more about an efficiency/volume equation and Key is definitely a high volume, low efficiency player. Like most rookies, he was just a very bad player. He showed promise but he certainly wasn't good outside of the rookie context.
 
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KqWIN said:
I think "chucker" is more about an efficiency/volume equation
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This.
I think of a chucker as someone who shoots a ton and misses a lot more than they make

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fishonjazz said:
I honestly think the twolves are the better team than the nuggets. But the nuggets have the best player in the series, have the most experience at this level and have home court.

I'm taking the nuggets in game 7 but I think it all comes down to Jamaal Murray. He is the X-factor. I think he has proven enough in the playoffs in the past for me to believe in him in a game 7. If he plays good then the nuggets win. If he plays bad then the twolves win. If he plays average then we all win because then it comes down to crunch time.

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I hate the Timberwolves but they have the better team than the Nuggets. I’m not very confident either way in Game 7. Feels like Denver has had to play perfect to win the games they have.
 
UpArrow said:
Oh Donny you kidder you.
We've seen you play this card before

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Donovan Mitchell: I'm Happy In Cleveland, I Know I've Got Decision To Make This Offseason

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Ehh, I might believe him. There just aren't a lot of great landing spots for him with Brunson taking over NYC. Does he really want to go to Brooklyn and be the afterthought team in New York? He's probably going to get a lot of input on Cleveland FO moves and who gets hired as the HC
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ehh, I might believe him. There just aren't a lot of great landing spots for him with Brunson taking over NYC. Does he really want to go to Brooklyn and be the afterthought team in New York? He's probably going to get a lot of input on Cleveland FO moves and who gets hired as the HC
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Miami and LA say hi. SA too.

If he wants to win then be Wemby's sidekick. If he wants lifestyle, more money, etc. Miami LA. If he wants to go home then its Brooklyn but that doesn't seem like a fun place. All he has to do is say he won't sign the extension with any team other than those three and he gets to those places. Unless Cavs can get something for Garland/Allen that makes him excited to stay I am not sure hanging around with Mobley in Cleveland is an amazing situation.

I think there is like a 30% chance he decides to take the extension and maybe its because the knee is a bit more concerning long term so he wants to lock in. I think Cleveland is a clear 4th option to those 3.
 
In a hypothetical where Mitchell re-signs in Cleveland and they decide to make Garland available, they wouldn't really be interested in their own picks that much and want to improve. But man, I'd be excited to bring Garland in next to Lauri.

Convince them that Collins is somehow their solution to the Allen/Mobley logjam, Donovan needs his guy Clarkson back, and throw them some of their picks back and we cooking. They're not, not we are.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
In a hypothetical where Mitchell re-signs in Cleveland and they decide to make Garland available, they wouldn't really be interested in their own picks that much and want to improve. But man, I'd be excited to bring Garland in next to Lauri.

Convince them that Collins is somehow their solution to the Allen/Mobley logjam, Donovan needs his guy Clarkson back, and throw them some of their picks back and we cooking. They're not, not we are.
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