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Ehh, I might believe him. There just aren't a lot of great landing spots for him with Brunson taking over NYC. Does he really want to go to Brooklyn and be the afterthought team in New York? He's probably going to get a lot of input on Cleveland FO moves and who gets hired as the HC

I think ego plays a large role at this point. He wants a larger market with more sparkle than SLC/CLE.
I'm sure he hates DA for shuffling him off to the Cavs rather than being able to force his way to NYC.
 
Definitely not something Donovan considers in his cards. The others for sure. May be bitter about being in the shadow in Brooklyn.
Depends... might be his best real chance at a title. Also will provide a bigger spotlight as Wemby is the next big thing. I mean he may not want to be Pippen but would you rather be Drexler than Pippen? Also has the no state income tax thing.

My prediction is Miami or LA. Him and Bam are besties... in the East he can still get into the playoffs and make a run. South Beach. No state income tax. LA has the biggest stage and platform but aging stars so their window is now.

I think Don tells Cleveland he won't sign the extension and then the bidding war between Miami and LA starts... maybe an outside team like NO says they will just call his bluff next year and beats their offer. Miami and LA can both put together okayish offers.
 
Depends... might be his best real chance at a title.
That it may be, but I think personal branding far outshadows that. Even think of all the other guys with 50th %ile egos who any given year could become the missing piece to a franchise that makes them favorites to win it all but they almost never make these choices. Now insert someone with a significantly higher percentile self image and those kind of theoretical never really register on a true radar.

I mean he may not want to be Pippen but would you rather be Drexler than Pippen?
“No, no, no, no… it’s not what I want… it’s what he wants.”

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That it may be, but I think personal branding far outshadows that. Even think of all the other guys with 50th %ile egos who any given year could become the missing piece to a franchise that makes them favorites to win it all but they almost never make these choices. Now insert someone with a significantly higher percentile self image and those kind of theoretical never really register on a true radar.


“No, no, no, no… it’s not what I want… it’s what he wants.”

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Again I think it depends. Does he really think he wins a title in Miami with Bam or in LA with AD and Lebron? Cuz the title helps the brand/legacy. He also might be the leading scorer on that team even with Wemby... so its a little different than a true second banana maybe.

I just think even SA is a better situation than Cleveland. And there might be some real leverage there as SA can sign him next year. LA/Miami wouldn't have space. Not that it matters that much. I think they could outbid both of those teams and Don might sign the extension there... maybe he asks out later. Maybe his ego destroys Wemby.
 
Again I think it depends. Does he really think he wins a title in Miami with Bam or in LA with AD and Lebron? Cuz the title helps the brand/legacy. He also might be the leading scorer on that team even with Wemby... so its a little different than a true second banana maybe.

I just think even SA is a better situation than Cleveland. And there might be some real leverage there as SA can sign him next year. LA/Miami wouldn't have space. Not that it matters that much. I think they could outbid both of those teams and Don might sign the extension there... maybe he asks out later. Maybe his ego destroys Wemby.
I think we know this. Does he?
 
I think we know this. Does he?
I don't think he is delusional. He can be a lot of things but I think he is intelligent and has some measure of self-awareness.
 
I don't think he is delusional. He can be a lot of things but I think he is intelligent and has some measure of self-awareness.
If he had that kind of self awareness, he’d have ensured making much more of his time here (he obviously accomplished a ton but it was front-loaded and plateaud when he mentally checked out).
 
If he had that kind of self awareness, he’d have ensured making much more of his time here (he obviously accomplished a ton but it was front-loaded and plateaud when he mentally checked out).
It was also his first team and he was in his early 20s. Playing on a second team in a new environment gives him an important perspective.
 
That it may be, but I think personal branding far outshadows that. Even think of all the other guys with 50th %ile egos who any given year could become the missing piece to a franchise that makes them favorites to win it all but they almost never make these choices. Now insert someone with a significantly higher percentile self image and those kind of theoretical never really register on a true radar.


“No, no, no, no… it’s not what I want… it’s what he wants.”

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He had a decent chance of a title in Utah, maybe 5he best chance he will get, and he played crappy defense to prove a point. Let's not pretend he is laser focused on a ring.
 
I think ego plays a large role at this point. He wants a larger market with more sparkle than SLC/CLE.
I'm sure he hates DA for shuffling him off to the Cavs rather than being able to force his way to NYC.
Ehh, idk. Donovan has stuck to the same script. He doesn't want to force his way anywhere it seems. He might not want to be where he's at, but he's not comfortable for whatever reason asking to go to a singular place.
 
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