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Yeah that roster is very flawed. Reading between lines, Don is likely signing his $209 mil extension in CLE. My guess is they don't fire JBB unless either Don or Dan Gilbert mandated it. Don can always demand a trade in 1-2 years if they can't improve the roster around him. Jazz obviously control their future draft thru the end of the decade so it's worth watching.
He can't really demand a trade if he's under contract long-term and if he's not demanding things when he has meaningful ability to do so (contract close to being up), I doubt he just does it when he doesnt.
 

Lonzo says he is healthy enough to play.

I think I could see a scenario where the Bulls lose Patrick Williams to a crazy offer sheet (maybe from Detroit?) and they reach out for a Lonzo/Collins swap.
I like this idea. Who knows what the Bulls are thinking.

Jazz could also potentially sign Patrick Williams to an offer sheet? Not sure how much money they have to play with if they extend Lauri. PW could be a Danny Ainge reclamation special but might be way too expensive in FA considering they already have Hendricks.
 

Lonzo says he is healthy enough to play.

I think I could see a scenario where the Bulls lose Patrick Williams to a crazy offer sheet (maybe from Detroit?) and they reach out for a Lonzo/Collins swap.
I'm still team trade for Lonzo, especially when we have a contract like Collins to send.
 
I like this idea. Who knows what the Bulls are thinking.

Jazz could also potentially sign Patrick Williams to an offer sheet? Not sure how much money they have to play with if they extend Lauri. PW could be a Danny Ainge reclamation special but might be way too expensive in FA considering they already have Hendricks.
I wouldnt want to bet on him at all. I'd pass.
 

Lonzo says he is healthy enough to play.

I think I could see a scenario where the Bulls lose Patrick Williams to a crazy offer sheet (maybe from Detroit?) and they reach out for a Lonzo/Collins swap.
Lonzo is the ultimate stealth tank or look like a genius move… him or Simmons I guess but I like Lonzo a lot more. If they play maybe you have something… if not it supports the tank and clears cap space. Collins fits Chicago as good as any place so I could see them interested.

I’m out on Williams. Just doesn’t seem to have the motor or attitude for his ideal role. Not skilled enough for the player he wants to be. They are in a weird spot. I wouldn’t want to pay him but losing him for nothing would suck.
 
Even if Lonzo is good he can support the tank by getting managed at the right times. If he is somewhat healthy he’s the type of guy that helps others shine. Even if he hit FA he wouldn’t get a big offer so we’d likely be able to keep him at an okay price. I think he’s cooked… I hope not but I’m not sure how often guys come all the way back from this.
 
Lonzo is the ultimate stealth tank or look like a genius move… him or Simmons I guess but I like Lonzo a lot more. If they play maybe you have something… if not it supports the tank and clears cap space. Collins fits Chicago as good as any place so I could see them interested.

I’m out on Williams. Just doesn’t seem to have the motor or attitude for his ideal role. Not skilled enough for the player he wants to be. They are in a weird spot. I wouldn’t want to pay him but losing him for nothing would suck.
I'd be more in on him if the Jazz didnt have Hendricks. I think he can play the McDaniels role on a playoff team.
 
Even if Lonzo is good he can support the tank by getting managed at the right times. If he is somewhat healthy he’s the type of guy that helps others shine. Even if he hit FA he wouldn’t get a big offer so we’d likely be able to keep him at an okay price. I think he’s cooked… I hope not but I’m not sure how often guys come all the way back from this.
His worst-case-scenario is better than Collins' best-case-scenario. It's a no brainer. But there have been a lot of no brainers that have been missed in recent history.
 
Collins would only make sense for CHI if they lose Pat/Shed salary otherwise. Resigning Derozan+Pat will put them right up against the tax. Even if Pat is gone, I don't think they trade for Collins.

Clarkson for Lonzo, however, does make sense for them salary wise.
 
I'd be more in on him if the Jazz didnt have Hendricks. I think he can play the McDaniels role on a playoff team.
Williams looks like McDaniels if he took a full bottle of melatonin before the game.
 
Collins would only make sense for CHI if they lose Pat/Shed salary otherwise. Resigning Derozan+Pat will put them right up against the tax. Even if Pat is gone, I don't think they trade for Collins.

Clarkson for Lonzo, however, does make sense for them salary wise.
Yeah, we said if they lose Pat...

Clarkson for Lonzo makes more sense if they keep Pat and just want to cut salary.
 
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