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That is so depressing when you look at all the guys drafted after him.
Truly.

Whether I look like a genius or a fool, I absolutely hated the pick and said as much (while trying to get on board and positive once the decision was made). Whenever you can draft someone who has no motor, pedestrian skills, and is both a featherweight and slow, you have to go for it.
 
The Oklahoma City Thunder legitimately piss me off. To have the best point differential in history, while being incredibly young AND setup for the future.

I know they'll have some contacts to juggle when Chet gets off his rookie deal, but it's just insane how perfectly this has come together
 
The Oklahoma City Thunder legitimately piss me off. To have the best point differential in history, while being incredibly young AND setup for the future.

I know they'll have some contacts to juggle when Chet gets off his rookie deal, but it's just insane how perfectly this has come together
Good scouting goes a long way. Aaron Wiggins was drafted 55th late in the second round. Isaiah Joe was claimed off waiver. Dort was undrafted. Not to mention their spectacular record in the first round. If you can consistently scout and recruit good players to your team, you will be competitive in just about any sports.
 
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I'm starting to think that might be part of the problem. Like, maybe Cody doesn't like basketball that much and he did it because his brother did it and brought Cody along.
I played high school basketball with the brothers of Tom Chambers and Danny Vranes. Those bros were definitely playing because they were supposed to. I remember a reporter asking Tom if his little brother played basketball beyond HS. The unprompted laugh of Tom still makes me laugh. If you know, you know.
 
The Oklahoma City Thunder legitimately piss me off. To have the best point differential in history, while being incredibly young AND setup for the future.

I know they'll have some contacts to juggle when Chet gets off his rookie deal, but it's just insane how perfectly this has come together
Yes, it's unfair.

Their team is built exactly how I would want our team built, with two way players who can really defend. I would love the build of their team even if they didn't have SGA. They wouldn't be a title contender at that point, but they would still be a really good team.

By the way Cason Wallace just had a really great March. 11.5pts/3reb/3ast/2stl/1blk 55/50/88 shooting splits.
 
Good scouting goes a long way. Aaron Wiggins was drafted 55th late in the second round. Isaiah Joe was claimed off waiver. Dort was undrafted. Not to mention their spectacular record in the first round. If you can consistently scout and recruit good players to your team, you will be competitive in just about any sports.

I think Wiggins is good, but I also think it's easier to look good when you are playing with other good players. OKC has the talent and a system that makes it easy to come in and be a positive player.
 
SGA has been better
The Thunder have won more games and there’s voter fatigue with Jokic. Those are the only arguments. Jokic has a better PER and +/-, and if he wasn’t on the Nuggets they’d be trash. The Thunder probably still make the playoffs without SGA, Jokic is the difference for the Nuggets between out of the playoffs and perennial dark horse contender at worst.
 
The Thunder have won more games and there’s voter fatigue with Jokic. Those are the only arguments. Jokic has a better PER and +/-, and if he wasn’t on the Nuggets they’d be trash. The Thunder probably still make the playoffs without SGA, Jokic is the difference for the Nuggets between out of the playoffs and perennial dark horse contender at worst.
Jokic is without question the best player in the world right now and it isn't particularly close. Imagine this guy with a supporting staff like SGA has? They'd be in contention to beat the warriors win total record and by more than 1 game. With him on a team like that you could be looking at 75+ wins which would be insane.
 
I'd vote Jokic for MVP
If he doesn't win it will be the same level of ******** as when they snubbed Gobert for DPOY and gave it to Smart. You could even argue Gobert was snubbed when they gave it to Giannis. Frankly Gobert should have won it 4 years in a row but voter fatigue is a real thing. Hope Jokic doesn't get snubbed in the same way this year. Frankly he has been the best player for the better part of the entire last decade and shows signs of only getting better, which is crazy. If he can somehow drag that team to another championship at some point he would be in the discussions of the GOAT. It could very well be MJ/James/Jokic in that discussion.
 
SGA is the best player on the best team (not only the best, a historically great team), has only missed 3 games this season, is the scoring leader and plays all-defensive team level defense. He's the MVP
 
Jokic is without question the best player in the world right now and it isn't particularly close. Imagine this guy with a supporting staff like SGA has? They'd be in contention to beat the warriors win total record and by more than 1 game. With him on a team like that you could be looking at 75+ wins which would be insane.
Jokic is the best player, but SGA is having the best season.
 
The Thunder have won more games and there’s voter fatigue with Jokic. Those are the only arguments. Jokic has a better PER and +/-, and if he wasn’t on the Nuggets they’d be trash. The Thunder probably still make the playoffs without SGA, Jokic is the difference for the Nuggets between out of the playoffs and perennial dark horse contender at worst.
If the argument is give it to the player who most upholds his team from being ****, it would go to Giannis.

PER is a joke stat.
 
SGA is the best player on the best team (not only the best, a historically great team), has only missed 3 games this season, is the scoring leader and plays all-defensive team level defense. He's the MVP
I have been team jokic for MVP but this post gives me pause

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