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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Joe Bagadonuts said:
To me this is not a discussion about justifying Trump's behavior at all. At least, I'm not trying to justify his behavior. You and Thriller and Fish (to an extent) have suggested that the admiration of Trump by some people has reached unacceptable levels. I believe that Obama enjoyed a very similar level of admiration among his loyalists (which included many media members). I think those magazine covers are proof. Can you imagine a national mainstream publication running a similar cover with Trump as the subject? I can't.
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I honestly can, assuming it's not a left-leaning periodical, imagine that happening when (not if) he is reelected this year, and it wouldn't concern me much. Like I said, these covers were just rhetoric-- not a literal statement by anyone that Obama is God-- but I don't dispute they were potentially in poor taste. That said, although they may not be in the national media, there are countless far-right and evangelical media outlets that go much further than mere rhetoric, and proclaim Trump is in fact holy, is God's elect, and is essentially incapable of error.

By the way, why you've lumped me in with Thriller I'm not sure of. My views and general stance are far more moderate than his. If you look back, you'll see you replied to a comment I made in response to Gameface, where we were talking about people who irrationally believed Obama would somehow not 'give up' the presidency after 8 years. This same group thought his supporters believed he was literally the Messiah, yet they are the same people who excuse Trump's poor ethics because they believe God made him president. I find that contradiction interesting and discouraging, when considering how we might find some middle ground and move forward as a country. Sorry we got our wires crossed.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Oh brother. Have you seen interest rates in banks? They often don't even keep up with inflation.
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Thriller confused bank account with brokerage account. The actual argument is that if Trump had simply put the millions he received from his father into S&P 500 funds he could have ended up with twice his current wealth. The argument stems from Warren Buffett’s famous advice for low information investors, i.e., that they regularly invest what they can save into a good S&P ETF then, over the decades, watch their wealth accumulate through the miracle of compounded earnings and the unrelenting power of a corporate biased economy.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I've been in the Yucutan for a week so I didn't see this response. LOL at your backtracking. There were many media members and fanboys who thought that Obama was the next coming. The fact that they may have later rescinded those opinions is irrelevant to this discussion. Maybe the Trump fanboys will ultimately rescind their praise too. Will that mean they never gave it? Chris Mathews from MSNBC was so thrilled at the Obama inauguration that he peed his pants (or something tingly in those regions) and told his audience about it. How would the never Trump crowd have reacted to that?
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I am not an Obama fan, but don't you understand why people were pleased that he was elected. Because it was a tacit acknowledgment that maybe the U.S. wasn't so racist after all. Is that hard to understand?

In any case he was a big disappointment because he turned out to be a shill for the establishment. Couldn't even stand up for his race when the epidemic of police shootings of unarmed blacks began. And kept us in war throughout his administration becoming a fan of drone attacks that killed many innocent people.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I am not an Obama fan, but don't you understand why people were pleased that he was elected. Because it was a tacit acknowledgment that maybe the U.S. wasn't so racist after all. Is that hard to understand?

In any case he was a big disappointment because he turned out to be a shill for the establishment. Couldn't even stand up for his race when the epidemic of police shootings of unarmed blacks began. And kept us in war throughout his administration becoming a fan of drone attacks that killed many innocent people.
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He left single payer off the table when he first went in to discuss healthcare reform. That was the start of my disillusionment.
 
Jonah said:
Thriller confused bank account with brokerage account. The actual argument is that if Trump had simply put the millions he received from his father into S&P 500 funds he could have ended up with twice his current wealth. The argument stems from Warren Buffett’s famous advice for low information investors, i.e., that they regularly invest what they can save into a good S&P ETF then, over the decades, watch their wealth accumulate through the miracle of compounded earnings and the unrelenting power of a corporate biased economy.
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That's a pretty big error on Thriller's part. He's really so financially illiterate that he thinks you could grow wealth of that magnitude and live a lavish lifestyle including helicopters and private planes with multiple divorces by investing in a savings account?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
That's a pretty big error on Thriller's part. He's really so financially illiterate that he thinks you could grow wealth of that magnitude and live a lavish lifestyle including helicopters and private planes with multiple divorces by investing in a savings account?
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Now you’re just being a prick. He never said savings account. He said bank account. Many banks offer investment services. I clarified the type of account and detailed the argument. The point of the argument is push back against Trump’s claim to be a brilliant businessman by stating he could have generated much more wealth by simply following Warren Buffett’s advice and passively investing in an S&P 500 fund. That’s it. That’s the point Thriller was trying to make. You could have asked for clarification yourself, but you’d rather lie about what he said than get to the actual point.
 
Jonah said:
Thriller confused bank account with brokerage account. The actual argument is that if Trump had simply put the millions he received from his father into S&P 500 funds he could have ended up with twice his current wealth. The argument stems from Warren Buffett’s famous advice for low information investors, i.e., that they regularly invest what they can save into a good S&P ETF then, over the decades, watch their wealth accumulate through the miracle of compounded earnings and the unrelenting power of a corporate biased economy.
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That claim is unfounded. Why do people repeat it as if it's gospel truth? Not as bad as birth certificate, but...
 
gandalfe said:
Fortune Magazine (hardly a left leaning rag) agrees with it. Unfortunately, their... table? Graphic? Whatever it was in the middle is broken, but the text is still there.

https://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
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Cool. Look at all the assumptions that go into these dumb ***, cherry picked estimates. They've all been shown to be bull ****. I notice Forbes didn't even bother giving theirs.
 
gandalfe said:
Fortune Magazine (hardly a left leaning rag) agrees with it. Unfortunately, their... table? Graphic? Whatever it was in the middle is broken, but the text is still there.

https://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
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Let me start off with the first order of dumbassery to show how ridiculous this claim is. They're typically based on Trump inheriting a wholly inaccurate, wildly estimated figure in 1974. His father died in 1999.
 
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