The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[fishonjazz]

The former vice president appears to have been selling influence to a very corrupt company through his son. I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree over how much that matters. I do not think you would find this scenario so incomprehensible if Dick Cheney's son was swapped out with Hunter Biden, and Obama swapped out with Trump. You (or at least many on your side of this argument) would probably be praising Obama for shining a light on corruption.

Why send his personal lawyer though rather than going through normal channels to investigate? And why not want an actual investigation but rather simply an announcement of an investigation?

The answer to both of these questions has to do with what the motivation was for Trump. If it were simply to put a stop to corruption (lol) then he would have had the proper authorities be the ones to do the investigation and he would have wanted it to be followed through on.

But that actual motivation was to damage a political opponents reputation in order to help himself. That's why he went about it the way he did.


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[Jazzta]

I realize he's being sarcastic, but Kevin Kruse is actually correct: Nothing that has come out, or will come out for that matter, will cause Trump voters to regret their votes. That ship sailed a loooong time ago.

Sadly I agree with this, I bought into the “drain the swamp” rhetoric and regretted voting for Trump about 2-3 months in. At this point those who still support him will die on that hill.

 

[One Brow]

This is hysterical. I am really being told that I'm burying my head in the sand by people who suggest that Burisma hired Hunter to add credibility to a struggling brand? Would your opinion change if you discovered that immediately subsequent to Hunter's appointment on the board of Burisma lobbyists and lawmakers associated with Hunter Biden pushed through legislation that resulted in over $50 million American taxpayer dollars going to Ukranian energy assistance which directly benefited Burisma? So far the anti-Trump crowd has shown zero interest in investigating or understanding any of this. Instead they simply tell us that it has been "debunked."

I don't mind if you want to call this corruption. You know what else happens? People leave Congress, get hired by private companies, and use their relationships to get legislation passed.

How did "Burisma lobbyists and lawmakers associated with Hunter Biden" get legislation passed? The same way as any other lobbyists; they bought/convinced legislators. Again, you want to call that a scandal, great. If so, why are you only focusing on Hunter Biden? What did Hunter Biden do that is not being done by the former legislators, or their relatives, of all political stripes on a daily basis? Why is Hunter Biden the your sole target?

 

[One Brow]

The former vice president appears to have been selling influence to a very corrupt company through his son.

Appears how? Can you offer one scintilla of evidence Joe Biden did anything for Burisma?

I do not think you would find this scenario so incomprehensible if Dick Cheney's son was swapped out with Hunter Biden, and Obama swapped out with Trump. You (or at least many on your side of this argument) would probably be praising Obama for shining a light on corruption.

Cheney was never a political rival of Obama, and as far as I know, Obama never did anything like this. How about you find an example of something that actually happened for us to condemn?

 

[One Brow]

Most of you fall for the media narrative EVERY time. It is getting old.

Lately, every single one of your posts is a media narrative you have fallen for. The lack of self-awareness here is staggering.

 

[PJF]

More media narrative. Do not allow the defense to speak.

 

[PJF]

Lately, every single one of your posts is a media narrative you have fallen for. The lack of self-awareness here is staggering.

You're so funny and smart.

 

[PJF]

 

[colton]

That's because it has-

https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...of-biden-or-kerry-channeled-us-aid-ukraine-b/

And even if it hasn't been debunked, IT DOESN'T MATTER. If there were legitimate evidence of wrongdoing, the proper course would be to have the FBI investigate, probably in conjunction with the State Department. NOT to send non-governmental individuals to the country to demand through back channels that they must announce an investigation or else aid will be withheld.

 

[PJF]

 

[colton]

In other news, I finally added a third individual to my ignore list. All of a sudden it's much faster for me to read through new posts on this thread. For some reason.

 

[PJF]

In other news, I finally added a third individual to my ignore list. All of a sudden it's much faster for me to read through new posts on this thread. For some reason.

I would ignore you too, but I can't since you are a "Staff Member".

I know how you guys like your "echo-chambers".