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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Those of you with twitter should see our president’s pinned tweet. What’s it going to take for you all to recognize how insane he is?
 
I believe Mark Meadows over any of you arm chair politicians. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

 
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Red said:
And I understand that. I have ALWAYS understood that. Long ago, a few years ago now, you suggested I start a thread to examine the differences between how liberals see the world, and how conservatives see the world. Which I did, but I forget how the conversation went. Not far, as I recall.

But, my point is I have close friends, highly intelligent friends, who support Trump. My closest friend is a conservative. Because he believes I am an intelligent man, he is absolutely incredulous that I feel the way I do. It's like "but you're a real smart guy; I don't get it". (In so many words, not an exact quote, but that was the gist of how he reacted when I first told him Trump was a demagogue). I could say the very same thing to him. "My dear friend, you are an intelligent and thoughtful man. How can you support Trump?" Without actually spelling it out, we simply decided to avoid politics, and stick to our shared interests. One thing I learned is that our differences are not rooted in intelligence, or education. We're both highly educated.

I believe it comes down to how people view the world. And we need to examine that basic fact very closely, and understand how we have let it get to such a dire state of extreme divisiveness.

I also believe, and have said as much many times in the Trump threads, that, sooner or later this impasse has got to end. But I'm not optimistic in the short term. Or the long term at the moment.

Any time I mention Trump at all, my wife takes it as her cue to bring up Hillary, who she hates. So I am in the thick of it where our partisan "civil war" is concerned. So, I take this as a test for me. I must be tolerant. I must understand we are all citizens of the same nation. I am married to someone who does not understand what all the Trump hate is all about. This has got to be a test; I hope I pass. Love trumps hate.

You may not realize it, because I make clear how I feel about Trump, but I spend a great deal of time trying to fathom these differences. I have also suggested to you, a few times, that we are dealing with competing narratives. And I do believe they both cannot be true. I think the narrative I subscribe to is the one where truth lies. I think eventually that will be born out. I expect you to disagree and subscribe to the president's narrative. To the narrative presented by Fox. I don't mean to make your position simplistic when I say that. I know you have said you don't like some of Trump's personal qualities.
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I appreciate your recognition that an intelligent and moral person can disagree with you. Many on your side do not share that belief. Ever since we met on this forum I have liked and respected you. Our political disagreements are undoubtedly large but I appreciate the way you handle yourself. I believe that I can understand the thinking of most liberals, I just disagree with it. I have often tried to explain why. I'm not sure whether you are saying that you can understand conservative thinking, or that their logic escapes you.

Also, like you, I am not optimistic that these two sides will come to an understanding in either the short or the long term. The divide is enormous, and getting larger.
 
“What is required for removal of the president?” Napolitano asked. “A demonstration of presidential commission of high crimes and misdemeanors, of which in Trump’s case the evidence is ample and uncontradicted.”
 
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There's certainly a middle ground here, which is that they hired him for his name, to add a veneer of credibility to their struggling brand.

Of course that doesn't mean that Joe Biden himself had anything to do with it, and no evidence suggests he did.

That said, I don't think anyone should be trading on the name of their politician parents. It would be really cool if that standard was universal, and the fact that Trump has is own family working in his white house and on his campaign while they do business overseas really blows the whole narrative of Trump being an anti corruption crusader into smithereens.
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This is hysterical. I am really being told that I'm burying my head in the sand by people who suggest that Burisma hired Hunter to add credibility to a struggling brand? Would your opinion change if you discovered that immediately subsequent to Hunter's appointment on the board of Burisma lobbyists and lawmakers associated with Hunter Biden pushed through legislation that resulted in over $50 million American taxpayer dollars going to Ukranian energy assistance which directly benefited Burisma? So far the anti-Trump crowd has shown zero interest in investigating or understanding any of this. Instead they simply tell us that it has been "debunked."
 
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