The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[PJF]

 

[LogGrad98]

So, your defense to the notion of Pence delivering empty boxes for show is that he admits he's delivering empty boxes for show?

To be fair, every time a politician does something like this it is generally for show, regardless of what they say or how it is framed. You don't get very many candid videos of politicians doing this kind of stuff and just, like, being caught doing it rather than it being staged.

 

[One Brow]

To be fair, every time a politician does something like this it is generally for show, regardless of what they say or how it is framed. You don't get very many candid videos of politicians doing this kind of stuff and just, like, being caught doing it rather than it being staged.

Absolutely. It's for show whether the boxes are full or empty.

 

[infection]

Yep. And his followers will fall for it. They’ll defend him. Theyll post memes and gifs. They’ll claim that he’s playing 300 dimensional chess and that any criticism of his lack of understanding is somehow playing into his hands.

Well, if he wins in November, this issue would have to be reconciled. Either he's playing 300 dimensional chess or the DNC lost a chess match against someone playing 'heads or tails.' I think it's more of the latter, myself.

 

[sirkickyass]

I actually read this Federalist article to see what the argument was. It all lands on one central premise:



Actually, no.

So, maybe this is news, but a telephone call has (at minimum) two people on the call. So if you're spying on a non-US citizen - say Kislyak - and Kislyak has a phone call then it means you're also listening to the second person too. It's an absurdity to argue that it's somehow improper to keep listening to the call because Michael Flynn is on the other end of the phone. That's precisely the kind of information you're spying on Kislyak to find out.

The logical leaps conservative media makes to protect their guys are sometimes surreal.

 

[PJF]

Wow. This describes most of you perfectly.

 

[Zombie]

Well, if he wins in November, this issue would have to be reconciled. Either he's playing 300 dimensional chess or the DNC lost a chess match against someone playing 'heads or tails.' I think it's more of the latter, myself.

It's a weird situation for sure. Trump shouldn't be a difficult person to run against, he's an incredibly flawed person both morally and intellectually. On the other hand he's tapped into something that resonates with millions of people, and no amount of reasoning seems to put a dent in it. This isn't to say that the democrats have done a good job, by and large I think their messaging has been pretty poor, and their ideas too small.

However, I'm not entirely convinced that matters all the much in beating him. Regardless of credentials or experience or reputation as soon as someone finds themselves in opposition to Trump, his millions of followers are fed conspiracy theories and lies to discredit them. It's just a **** show all around.

 

[One Brow]

Wow. This describes most of you perfectly.

 

[Deleted member 365]

The one law professor they could find to testify on Trump's behalf on impeachment. Shocker that he also takes the administration position on this one. Nope, def not a hack.

Not discussed in this article:

1. Flynn was an unregistered agent of Russia.

2. Flynn was an unregistered agent of Turkey

3. Flynn did the crime (Call with Kislyak)

4. Flynn lied when asked about it.

5. Flynn lied to the Vice President and Sean Spicer about the call.

What part of the evidence discussed in this article disproves any of the fundamental features of the case? What part of the legal argument in this article transforms Flynn's statements into truths? Did he lie when he plead guilty twice?

The article is hacky because it doesn't even engage major portions of the case. It's just a laundry list recitation of Flynn's defense attorneys' filings.

seems like Turley is having a rough day on Twitter as well.

 

[fishonjazz]

Well, if he wins in November, this issue would have to be reconciled. Either he's playing 300 dimensional chess or the DNC lost a chess match against someone playing 'heads or tails.' I think it's more of the latter, myself.

I think you mean lost a popularity contest. Who has more loyal and more partisan voters? The Dems or Republicans? That's what decides who is president way more than which is the better candidate or who had the better debates or campaign etc.

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[infection]

I think you mean lost a popularity contest. Who has more loyal and more partisan voters? The Dems or Republicans? That's what decides who is president way more than which is the better candidate or who had the better debates or campaign etc.

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The strategy is to win the presidency.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Ummm