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As a side note, the fact that the ‘jury’ (senators) can meet with the prosecution/defense extensively before the trial is lunacy.

Imagine a murder trial where three of the jurors coordinate with the prosecutor how they’re going to convince their peers to fry this dude regardless of how the case actually goes and pretend to show interest. We’d talk about an abandonment of justice and how a fair trial is a mirage.

Welcome to politics - check your human decency and decorum at the door.
 
As a side note, the fact that the ‘jury’ (senators) can meet with the prosecution/defense extensively before the trial is lunacy.

Imagine a murder trial where three of the jurors coordinate with the prosecutor how they’re going to convince their peers to fry this dude regardless of how the case actually goes and pretend to show interest. We’d talk about an abandonment of justice and how a fair trial is a mirage.

Welcome to politics - check your human decency and decorum at the door.
That's a good point that I hadn't thought of

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I just read an article that shows that plans were made for the Insurrection the night before. This is really explosive. The author, Greg Palast, said this was shared with the House prosecution team but they never used it:

https://www.gregpalast.com/smoking-...-trumps-call-to-march-on-capitol-was-a-crime/
I don't think the plan was to necessarily storm the capitol, take hostages and lives, but rather ratchet up so much tension that R senators and Pence gave in. Doubt anyone in the Trump camp thought hanging and murdering politicians was going to be a winning play.

However, you can't drum up support from thousands and thousands of kooks without finding a good chunk of them with their own agendas who really believe this is the end times.

Not exactly hard to find flat-earthers, people who believe cats are secretly Antifa and every Youtube video view is another virgin sacrificed to George Soros.
 
I wonder how the vote would go if it was a secret vote. Too bad they will vote their ambition instead of their conscience.

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The guy instigated a deadly attack on our Congress and they still don't have the balls to do what's right. They are done. Cruz, Graham, et. al are underestimating how livid most of their base are. They'll lose huge in the next election as decent Republicans vote their conscience.
 
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I don't think the plan was to necessarily storm the capitol, take hostages and lives, but rather ratchet up so much tension that R senators and Pence gave in. Doubt anyone in the Trump camp thought hanging and murdering politicians was going to be a winning play.

However, you can't drum up support from thousands and thousands of kooks without finding a good chunk of them with their own agendas who really believe this is the end times.

Not exactly hard to find flat-earthers, people who believe cats are secretly Antifa and every Youtube video view is another virgin sacrificed to George Soros.
I don't think the Trump group had a plan. They did not plan on hanging anyone and storming the capitol as it happened. But they sure as **** didn't fall over themselves trying to stop it either once they got the ball rolling. Trump sat there watching it on TV and just let it roll.

My personal opinion is that Trump wanted to see death. And he only finally reached out once it became evident he wasn't getting the blood he actually wanted.

My question is, if they had managed to get anyone to those gallows, would the slimey repubs defending Trump still be defending him? How many deaths would it have taken, considering it already cost what, 5? Isn't 5 enough?
 
I am thankful that this sham trial (not sham on evidence mind you, sham on it actually mattering) will wrap up quickly and we can move forward with actually getting things done.

If I'm Schumer, I'm pushing DC and PR statehood as priorities right away alongside any Covid relief. PR senate seats are not a slam dunk for D's and you can be the filibuster will be turned off for those votes (though PR statehood actually does have a bit of R support from both Florida senators).
 
It's pretty stupid to see the news media pretend like anything Trump's defense team says will actually make a difference. They literally could flip the entire Senate off and said that Trump wanted them all massacred and 45 Republicans would still vote to get him off because they don't want to anger their ****** voters and be primaried. Pretty sad.

I'm also finding it a self fulfilling prophecy:

1. Republican officials fail to stand up to Trump out of fear of the mob.
2. As a result, Trump and his followers become more emboldened and more misinformed.
3. Republican officials fail to stand up to Trump out of fear of the mob.

Republicans aren't ever going to break this cycle until they stand up to Trump and set their voters straight. They'll stay enslaved to Trump as long as they fail to fight back.
Which is why the rest of us sane and responsible Americans need to keep the mob and their politicians the hell away from government.
 
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