The Official "Let's Vote Trump Out" Thread!

[Deleted member 365]

There is one democratic socialist running. One.

None of the rest of them are advocates for socialism.

Serious question, what’s the difference between Democratic Socialism and Trump’s economy policy towards farmers? I know socialism sounds scarier. But what’s fundamentally different from government giving farmers billions in handouts?

 

[Gameface]

This is the problem with the Democratic party. This is the reason that Trump will win. They have a bias that is so pronounced it takes away all credibility.
Can you really not see anything good that Trump has done? Can you really not see anything he can offer? You really think he is the worst president ever? If so, this a failure on your part.

To be fair, this was the issue for Republicans in Obama's second term. Failure to appreciate reality.

I can and I have acknowledge those things and if you need me to do so now I will. But he DQs himself with his beyond the pale behaviour and corruption.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I'm far from a deficit hawk, but it's really fun to see conservatives completely OK with the huge, tremendous, hole Trump has blown in the deficit with his tax cuts for billionaires. It's going to make arguments over Medicare for all and other spending programs a lot more fun.

Right. And for what? What was gained? At least Obama rescued our economy from free fall. Deficit spending was warranted then. Republicans pretend that 2007-2008 didn’t happen. Who was president then? They act as if history began Jan 2009.

The Trump economy isn’t an improvement over the Obama economy. It’s just a continuation of it. And Obama did it without giving tax cuts and exploding the deficit.

 

[silesian]

I'd vote for anyone, including those who I have extreme policy differences, counting on checks and balances to limit big government trends. I'd even vote for Bernie or Elizabeth. Because I could never look my kids in the eye and say anything other than I voted against the guy who supported executing the Central Park 5 (after they were proven innocent) and led the racist birther movement. Among other reasons.

I'd also vote for the Jazz Bear over Trump. Or a real bear. One with low IQ and mommy issues who lives in the Dad's basement playing video games and watching porn.

Or a piece of belly button lint from a real bear with low IQ and mommy issues who lives in the Dad's basement playing video games and watching porn.

((((I hope that wasn't impolite))))

 

[silesian]

Right. And for what? What was gained? At least Obama rescued our economy from free fall. Deficit spending was warranted then. Republicans pretend that 2007-2008 didn’t happen. Who was president then? They act as if history began Jan 2009.

The Trump economy isn’t an improvement over the Obama economy. It’s just a continuation of it. And Obama did it without giving tax cuts and exploding the deficit.

Obama deficits were bad. Very bad. Tea Party Bad.

Bigly Trump deficits are good because because Trump is awesome.

 

[MVP]

Nothing to offer? If you don’t think Democrats have anything to offer regarding the biggest issues of our day: health care, climate change, education, then it’s safe to say you need to do more research. You might not agree with them. But to say that they’re not offering anything is incredibly ignorant.

How many voters really read election platforms? They generally look for strong, charismatic or controversial personalities. What democrat candidate has mass appeal which will win in those red states Trump dominated?

 

[Deleted member 365]

How many voters really read election platforms? They generally look for strong, charismatic or controversial personalities. What democrat candidate has mass appeal which will win in those red states Trump dominated?

Oh. So I was under the impression you cared about issues. Hence, why you said, “they have nothing to offer.” If all that matters is having a big charismatic and loud obnoxious personalities, why have debates or party platforms? Why care if Sanders is a Democratic Socialist? What does that say about the state of our democracy if all that matters is the impression of strength?

Pro tip, next time just say you like Donald’s loud personality and you don’t know/care about the issues.

 

[MVP]

Oh. So I was under the impression you cared about issues. If all that matters is having a big charismatic and loud obnoxious personalities, why have debates or party platforms? Why care if Sanders is a Democratic Socialist? What does that say about the state of our democracy if all that matters is the impression of strength?

Democrats don’t have to win any red states. They just need to win a handful (2-3) of purple midwestern states that they lost by a total of 80,000 votes last time. If Democrats win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and/or Michigan, Trump is gone. Most states have already decided who they’re voting for already (cali isn’t going red and Utah isn’t going blue) and ultimately they won’t matter. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan are really all that matter.

I am not voting as I am not in USA. I am just watching USA elections from outsiders perspective as a big comedy show since last time. I thought democrats learned from their failure during last elections and yet I do not see anybody so far who would be more appealing to USA electorate than Trump.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Democrats DONT need to win any red states. Hell, 40 states are already decided. They don’t matter for the EC.

Democrats just need to win a handful (2-3) of purple midwestern states that they lost by a total of 80,000 votes last time. If Democrats win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and/or Michigan, Trump is gone. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and Michigan are really all that matter. And out of all those states, Democrats should probably focus on the upper Midwest.

 

[Archie Moses]

My gf's parents are staying with us for a few. They're huge Fox News Trumpers from Florida. They watch Fox News religiously. I can't talk to her dad about Trump or he gets all worked up over my opinion. Her mom went so far as to look up what pages I liked on Facebook and saw I liked Vice News and it made my suspect and she thought I was super liberal. To be fair, a lot of what Vice posts is complete trash - I love their docs and YouTube videos though.

Anyway, her dad told me this morning Obama accumulated the most debt as president. I ignored his comment (I've learned my lesson to talk politics with him) and googled it. I read this this morning and learned a few things.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

 

[Deleted member 365]

I am not voting as I am not in USA. I am just watching USA elections from outsiders perspective as a big comedy show since last time. I thought democrats learned from their failure during last elections and yet I do not see anybody so far who would be more appealing to USA electorate than Trump.

That’s not what the facts say. You need to get better informed. Especially since you’re living outside the United States. Literally, all of the top Democratic candidates are more appealing to the American electorate than Donald Trump.



The key isn’t finding a candidate who can appeal to the electorate at large. Our presidential elections aren’t decided by the popular vote. So the key is finding a candidate who can win the handful of swing states needed to win the electoral college. Who is it? That question remains unanswered today. Which is why we’re having a primary.

Your last few posts are a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect

 

[Getting Traded]

Can you really not see anything good that Trump has done? Can you really not see anything he can offer? You really think he is the worst president ever? .

A Resounding Yes, Yes, Yes! He is a foul reeking rotten slab of fecal matter who deserves our undying revulsion.