The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

[Deleted member 365]

Oof.

 

[Gameface]

Oof.

What a good look...

 

[babe]

Beyond belief, a lot of people are more outraged by Russia than our open borders politics, which contributes to significant human trafficking. "Slavery" could be a word for that. That set of ideas can only be embraced by folks who are gung ho for the Cloward/Piven stragey and who cheer for the end of this republic as an impediment to global fascism.

That said, I've been going around reading all kinds of stuff, and today the CFR magazine "Foreign Affairs", has some articles about Germany's reversal on relations with Russia, amid vows to become energy independent. Greenie delusions, I think. Then there are some articles on Russian internal affairs, where one article lays out a perceived major shift inside Russian politics. Bemoaning a Russian military-industrial complex and new technology, it lays blame for the Ukranian invasion squarely on the military, which is seen by this article as significantly popular in its own rights within Russia. Kremlin power structure used to be KGB/FSB but now the oligarchs and military commanders have a share. Ukraine defeat could go hard on that new element and just set Putin back up even stronger.

There's also an article on how our strategy has moved on in regards to containment, thrilling the reader with the wonders of financial manipulations. Don't count on it. They'll be more of free economy than we are.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Beyond belief, a lot of people are more outraged by Russia than our open borders politics, which contributes to significant human trafficking. "Slavery" could be a word for that. That set of ideas can only be embraced by folks who are gung ho for the Cloward/Piven stragey and who cheer for the end of this republic as an impediment to global fascism.

That said, I've been going around reading all kinds of stuff, and today the CFR magazine "Foreign Affairs", has some articles about Germany's reversal on relations with Russia, amid vows to become energy independent. Greenie delusions, I think. Then there are some articles on Russian internal affairs, where one article lays out a perceived major shift inside Russian politics. Bemoaning a Russian military-industrial complex and new technology, it lays blame for the Ukranian invasion squarely on the military, which is seen by this article as significantly popular in its own rights within Russia. Kremlin power structure used to be KGB/FSB but now the oligarchs and military commanders have a share. Ukraine defeat could go hard on that new element and just set Putin back up even stronger.

There's also an article on how our strategy has moved on in regards to containment, thrilling the reader with the wonders of financial manipulations. Don't count on it. They'll be more of free economy than we are.

Immigration/asylum seeking is slavery?

And why should I be more outraged at our immigration policy than Russia threatening nuclear war, invading another country, and bombing kindergartens? I would certainly Hope everyone would be more upset with what’s happening in Eastern Europe. Thousands are being needlessly slaughtered, millions of lives are being disrupted, the entire liberal order is being rocked, and nuclear war is an existential threat to all of us.

A bloody war in Eastern Europe that has the potential of being a world war involving nukes is more important than you being angry over a few Latin Americans coming here to work you ****ing dotard

 

[Deleted member 365]

The potential for this to quickly spiral into a world war is escalating by the day… all it takes is a few mistakes…



I don’t think anyone is going to declare war over an embassy being blown up. But all it takes is a bad missile strike going off course and hitting Poland. An air strike hitting a NATO ship. Some dumbass reading the radar wrong…

Things can spiral out of control fast. That’s how World War I began…

 

[Avery]

What we're seeing here is additional proof in what I call the U.S. military's most underrated superpower... logistics.

Russia is struggling to get the right forces to the right positions with the right supplies to leverage its significant advantage in both quantity and firepower. This is something the U.S. military has shown extraordinary ability in going all the way back to the Persian Gulf War in the 90s, but refined and perfected so much that in the war in Iraq, during the initial offensive, the U.S. frequently told our allies to kindly just stay out of the way because they couldn't keep up with our advancement, our battlefield picture (the knowledge of where all our stuff was and where support and supplies needed to be before they were needed), and our ability to put forces in the right places as soon as they needed to be there for the best effectiveness.

I think the U.S. has put more thought and effort into logistics than anyone else in the world by an even bigger margin than we outspend them on our military hardware.

This is a top shelf post. I’m just trying to find out who’s using GF’s profile at home or via hacking.

 

[Rubashov]

What we're seeing here is additional proof in what I call the U.S. military's most underrated superpower... logistics.

Russia is struggling to get the right forces to the right positions with the right supplies to leverage its significant advantage in both quantity and firepower. This is something the U.S. military has shown extraordinary ability in going all the way back to the Persian Gulf War in the 90s, but refined and perfected so much that in the war in Iraq, during the initial offensive, the U.S. frequently told our allies to kindly just stay out of the way because they couldn't keep up with our advancement, our battlefield picture (the knowledge of where all our stuff was and where support and supplies needed to be before they were needed), and our ability to put forces in the right places as soon as they needed to be there for the best effectiveness.

I think the U.S. has put more thought and effort into logistics than anyone else in the world by an even bigger margin than we outspend them on our military hardware.

A mate from work has recently left the ADF, as a rifleman he was expected to carry a 50kg pack, up to 90kg if they was no prospect of supply. (packs are weighted by body weight, expectation is that a grunt will hump 50 to 100 percent.) By contrast American troops almost never carry a pack heavier that 35kg.

 

[babe]

Immigration/asylum seeking is slavery?

And why should I be more outraged at our immigration policy than Russia threatening nuclear war, invading another country, and bombing kindergartens? I would certainly Hope everyone would be more upset with what’s happening in Eastern Europe. Thousands are being needlessly slaughtered, millions of lives are being disrupted, the entire liberal order is being rocked, and nuclear war is an existential threat to all of us.

A bloody war in Eastern Europe that has the potential of being a world war involving nukes is more important than you being angry over a few Latin Americans coming here to work you ****ing dotard

You misrepresent my comment. Nothing to do with legal immigration. Illegal immigration funds corrupt, lawless gangs who run drugs and children, and women. This is human tr4afficking. A crime by our laws, and anyone who does nothing to enforce our laws is in effect sanctioning this abuse. Most of the people who are br4ought here by the cartelsw are brought at a price that includes payments after they get here and get work. People who hire this..... factual slaves...... are supporting modern slavery.

You don't care about the human cost here, and you don't carry on any good conversation. If someone disagrees with you or your "agenda" you go straight to marginalizing, demeaning, and in various other ways reducing their value as humanity. The first step to worse than Putin.

 

[Deleted member 365]

You misrepresent my comment. Nothing to do with legal immigration. Illegal immigration funds corrupt, lawless gangs who run drugs and children, and women. This is human tr4afficking. A crime by our laws, and anyone who does nothing to enforce our laws is in effect sanctioning this abuse. Most of the people who are br4ought here by the cartelsw are brought at a price that includes payments after they get here and get work. People who hire this..... factual slaves...... are supporting modern slavery.

You don't care about the human cost here, and you don't carry on any good conversation. If someone disagrees with you or your "agenda" you go straight to marginalizing, demeaning, and in various other ways reducing their value as humanity. The first step to worse than Putin.

pull your head out dude. A potential world war is more important than whatever grievance you have against immigration. And human trafficking? What? Get off Facebook dude. Operation underground and Tim Ballard was so 2020.

 

[sirkickyass]

Just swinging by to say that the article about Fiona Hill's impressions of Putin should be viewed as the most reliable source available to us.

I've read a LOT of books about Putin. He's absurdly hard to get a read on and his intentions are almost always opaque. One of the reasons a certain posters unqualified statements about what Putin wants, thinks, or would agree to are so ludicrous is because people who make watching Russia their entire profession struggle to understand the man.

All that said, Fiona Hill's book on Putin is the best one. And it's not even close. It starts all the way back with his parents experiences before he was born, how that affected their parental decisions, and how he responded to specific professional stresses in East Germany and in the St. Petersburg mayor's office. She builds a psychological profile based upon how different events changed him. It's the most complete picture of the guy I've ever seen, and its' been the most predictive of his behavior since he wrote it.

If she says he would use a nuke: you can't ignore that. That's a valid assessment by an expert.

 

[Jingled]

The potential for this to quickly spiral into a world war is escalating by the day… all it takes is a few mistakes…



I don’t think anyone is going to declare war over an embassy being blown up. But all it takes is a bad missile strike going off course and hitting Poland. An air strike hitting a NATO ship. Some dumbass reading the radar wrong…

Things can spiral out of control fast. That’s how World War I began…

Man, this is some scary ****. Never thought I'd see anything like this in my lifetime.

 

[Ron Mexico]

You misrepresent my comment. Nothing to do with legal immigration. Illegal immigration funds corrupt, lawless gangs who run drugs and children, and women. This is human tr4afficking. A crime by our laws, and anyone who does nothing to enforce our laws is in effect sanctioning this abuse. Most of the people who are br4ought here by the cartelsw are brought at a price that includes payments after they get here and get work. People who hire this..... factual slaves...... are supporting modern slavery.

You don't care about the human cost here, and you don't carry on any good conversation. If someone disagrees with you or your "agenda" you go straight to marginalizing, demeaning, and in various other ways reducing their value as humanity. The first step to worse than Putin.

This is pretty solid whataboutism even from you. Well done sir.